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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm all for diplomacy. Finding diplomatic solutions to these kinds of problems is the ideal outcome.

When it's not ideal and you're dealing with someone irrational or uncooperative, then maybe fighting isn't the worst way to go.

Bluntly, I support Ukraine. They're clearly trying to make diplomacy work.

I can't say the same for Putin/Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

This ^^^ so much

Do not trust Russia, and do not trust the US under current administration, or while the GOP still exists. We in the rest of the world are ON OUR OWN and must band together against this push of fascism across the world. This is not a drill, this is not a joke. Fascism is again on the rise, as it was in the 1930s. We all know where that led, so don't let it do so again!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't recall hearing about 20 ceasefire agreements.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Oh bother, you've upset the tankies, who totally haven't just been Russian trolls the entire time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (31 children)

Can someone explain how you are supposed to get Russia to leave? Sanctions didn't work, lethal aid didn't work, F-16s didn't work, and striking Russia itself isn't either.

You can argue for the war to continue I suppose, but Ukraine isn't winning and I'm not seeing anything here that would change that fact.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Can someone explain how you are supposed to get Russia to leave? Sanctions didn’t work, lethal aid didn’t work, F-16s didn’t work, and striking Russia itself isn’t either.

These things haven't won the war, but they most definitely are working. Russia's economy is crippled, their military is running out of old equipment to cannibalize, and they lack the capability to produce the kinds of advanced military equipment they need. They've been throwing bodies into the meat grinder trying to overwhelm Ukraine, but despite the high cost they are making very little progress. This is not a great long term strategy, but it's the one Russia has been stuck with.

You can argue for the war to continue I suppose, but Ukraine isn’t winning and I’m not seeing anything here that would change that fact.

But what's the alternative? Right now Ukraine can only fight or surrender. While they fight, they can try to negotiate a peace deal, but so far the only deals Putin and Trump seem willing to consider are nearly indistinguishable from surrender. Give Russia everything they want, give up on everything you want, stop the fighting for now but put nothing in place to ensure that Russia won't just rearm and invade again later.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Are you sure that Ukraine is not winning?

It is a war of attrition with Russia against the amount of aid the West is willing to provide to Ukraine.

The only way Russia wins is if the US changes the balance of power by enriching Russia (dropping sanctions) or impoverishing Ukraine (dropping support).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Source: Zelensky.

For an interesting, not meme-like reading about these ceasefires, you could reach this timeline.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The meme talks about 2014 to 2022, your sub stack post about 2021 to 2025, so one is talking about the conflict leading up to the full invasion by Russia, the other is talking about what happened after the Russian invasion. They are closely related but not the same.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As i just said in another comment: imagine the backlash if someone were to post something similar with putin face. People are being accused of being russian trolls for the slightest unaligned critic of ukraine government. I'm not questioning it but this post is what propaganda actually looks like

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Fuck lemmy for leaking politics to every possible community and not removing it on user reports. What a cesspool of a platform.

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