85
I have to stop clicking on the phoronix comment section. It's like a mini Twitter.
Still, Ubuntu should also ditch snap instead of hanging onto it just because they wrote it. It's the reason I don't recommend Ubuntu to friends anymore.
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
85 points (100.0% liked)
Programming
19122 readers
107 users here now
Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!
Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.
Hope you enjoy the instance!
Rules
Rules
- Follow the programming.dev instance rules
- Keep content related to programming in some way
- If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos
Wormhole
Follow the wormhole through a path of communities [email protected]
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I tried to open files placed in /tmp in Firefox and gave up after going down the sandbox rabbit hole. I then uninstalled the snap and did some acrobatics to get the apt version, as apt install firefox will actually install the snap by default.
Had the same experience with chromium. Can't remember what I was trying to do but it involved accessing hardware (GPU or something) and it just didn't work. That was until I found out apt install chromium installed a goddamn snap package. I felt betrayed and lied to.
Canonical does great things, but that is definitely not one of them.
It’s the main reason many people avoid Ubuntu. They could achieve the same goal by shipping the Flatpak version of Firefox if they really don’t want to handle its packaging.
Heard just this week that uutils apparently has 100% compatibility with the GNU coreutils (so more than ~~musl~~ BusyBox aims for). That's good, if distros start shipping it then. It's not really something normal users would install themselves...
musl is a libc
Ah, right, mixed it up with BusyBox.
They don’t seem to have 100% pass of the tests, but I might be missing something?
Would love to take the jump, but I think I’ll wait until they pass all tests
Oh, it said "By ~2026, it will be 100% compliant", which seems to just be an estimate based on the trend for how many tests they passed over the past years. My bad.
But yeah, probably still useful to get it onto real systems now to find any other remaining bugs.
So how should such a system be called? Uutil/Linux?
Same as decades before: Ubuntu.
One wonders how much of that is to remove copyleft
A thousand times less than the conspirologists suggest.
Wow, interesting thought.
I do use a few of the rust uutils notably cp -g (progress bar)
But now you make me think this change is for nefarious purposes.
Who maintains uutil? Presumably it's not GNU?
Two software engineers, one from Texas, the other from the Netherlands
They aren't allowed to eat meals prepared at the same restaurant or fly on the same plane, for continuity
Not part of uutils but I've been using sudo-rs on all of my NixOS systems for over a year, and it's been great.
What's the difference from your normal sudo?
I can actually read the code
Not much, just says sudo-rs instead of sudo, and it's memory safe. I think there might be some missing features for really advanced multi-tenant setups, but for single user machines, it's the perfect successor to sudo.
nixos also supports giving the sudo binary a setuid flag that only allows members of the wheel group to use sudo, preventing any privilege escalation attacks from your services/servers.