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This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn't mean it will be passed. The overwhelming majority of bills that are introduced don't pass. And this is in one state, not federal. And if the legislature passed it the governor may veto it, and it would certainly face legal challenge.

I get that everything sucks right now and it feels like we're getting attacked on every front. I get the administration is doing illegal stuff. We're in for a rough time. Still: don't give them power by acting like every idea they bring up is likely, or possible. This bill is just trolling, it's so some nobody state level legislators will have a bullet point in their newsletter and a social media post.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn’t mean it will be passed.

But it absolutely means that republicans want to do it and will keep working at it until they accomplish it or something similar. And democrats will probably fucking go along with it because of course they will.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago

You're missing the point. This shit drags the Overton window to the right every time.

They are testing the limits and normalizing this shit at the same time.

It doesn't pass... Until it does. Then what.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

You are, of course, correct. That said, the level of enforcement happening on illegal acts and judicial orders says it may not matter.

It’s a mess right now. So keeping an eye is good.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

We need one to counter and call it the Koolaid Cooperation Clause

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What in tarnation? Is Trump Derangement Syndrome a real diagnosis now?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago

No, but he’s impacted mental health. I’ve had people with psychosis wondering, first term, why Trump hadn’t arrived to save them from their crappy lives yet. Crying. Shaking. Legit beside themselves with belief that he was riding in to save them from themselves post election. Going over the edge such that “the shot” needed to be deployed.

Needless to say, news was banned from that unit, airing it made breakdowns increase in both number and severity.

That said, this is not how the current conservative pundits are presenting this so called syndrome. This label is instead assisting in their dismissal of people who think Trump is having a negative impact on America, in whatever way(s) you choose to read his impact as negative. The way they toss “Trump Derangement Syndrome” around is not unlike the classic unhealthy male who can’t maintain a healthy romantic relationship and is thus quick to accuse the ex, all the exes, of being “crazy” in a sad attempt to rally social support. Similar tone.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

No, just some terminally online Trump fans think it's real.

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[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I've contacted all those that I can. A director at NAMIMN did respond to my email stating that this bill won't be heard at all. Still fucked up of them to even try.

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) (noun) - An irrational and unwavering devotion to Donald Trump, characterized by blind loyalty, the dismissal of any criticism as fake news or conspiracy, and an inability to acknowledge his flaws or contradictions.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's the bill number? Is there a link to the text for a full read?

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a Minnesota bill and the link takes you to the full text.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is PROOF that Republicans LOVE Freedom and are NOT Snowflakes or Fascists!

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is the litmus test for our democracy. If it passes we are so unbelievably fucking cooked.

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[–] sfu@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Like red flag laws, but for the other side.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Red Flag laws are used to remove guns from Trans, Latino, and Black people in red states too. It's not the solution to gun violence that people think it is. It was a good idea, but it ends up falling to paradox of the false positive and even being weaponized against minorities more often than not. It violates due process as well.

More comprehensive care for people with severe mental health issues and arresting and jailing domestic violence offenders their first time is more effective. Unfortunately, we just defunded public mental health, so...

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago (8 children)

So, the only possible sane position is to support everything Trump does?

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