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I like how people say “Eat the rich” and “attack and vandalize musk product” and also the “boycott usa product” But then “i am with trump on this, houthies shouldnt attack ships because it affect economy”
Houthies this time stood for what they believe in “if you blockade aid to enter gaza, we will continue blockade on international goods through the red sea”
I can agree that we ought to not blockade the people of Gaza while also believing another group ought not shoot missiles at innocent shipping in an effort to raise awareness for the first group.
It’s not cognitive dissonance.
You really dont know why people say "eat the rich" and "boycott usa product" but have issues supporting an internationally recognized terrorist organization?
So what, as long as I support Palestine, I'm free to attack random ships without repercussions? Give me a fucking break.
Oh I remember this episode.
I wonder how long the world is going to be okay with America using deadly violence in the Middle East as a way to mask and deflect from domestic turmoil? At least our “coalition of the willing (to commit war crimes)” is getting smaller.
ehhh.... fuck it, let's earn some downvotes.
I'm really not going to lose sleep over a group that intentionally targets civilian ships staffed, with you know, innocent civilians.
Trump sucks. But Iran's upper leadership also sucks, and they're funding this.
It's hilarious that your name is Robin Hood but you're completely against imposing a blockade to stop a genocide
Did Robin Hood go out and pepper innocent people with arrows? Was that the moral of the story?
Most ship crew members come from neutral developing countries, such as the Philippines. Maybe their lives don't mean much to you, but they mean a lot to me. Sorry, I'm never going to condone attacking innocent civilians.
Robin Hood committed crimes to help people in need. What's worse? Taking cargo vessels and holding their crew ransom or genociding millions of people? Fighting evil is usually ugly, if playing nice was effective we wouldn't be here
yeah, robin hood wasn't out attacking innocent people.
We're all the heroes in our own story but you're sitting here trying to defend attacking innocent civilians. I hope some day you're able to realize how messed up that is.
How do you feel about what's happening to the Palestinians? if that was happening to you would you want someone to disrupt supply chains to help you?
disrupt supply chains? Sure. Kill innocent civilians? Honestly, probably I would want them to kill whoever to save me, but I'd know that I was morally wrong, if not outright evil.
The mass violence experienced by the Palestinians has been horrific. The October 7th attack was barbaric. Prior actions in recent times by Israel helped pave the way for that attack. Ditto for Hamas. There certainly are and were evil persons among Hamas. Likewise, there are evil people in Israel in high places.
I understand you. Taking innocent lives is wrong. I feel like my perspective comes from a similar sentiment to the JFK quote: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Peaceful means have been tried to help the Palestinian people for decades and it hasn't been at all effective. That's the only reason I could possibly find myself being ok with what the yemenis do
You're not going to like this, but the facts bear out: Palestinian leaders are complicit in all of this. They could have accepted a peace deal under Clinton decades ago and they'd have their own country right now. Palestinians have caused trouble in Jordan, Egypt, and elsewhere, which is why Arab nations in the ME are sometimes nearly as wary and as restricted on borders as Israel.
There are lots and lots of bad actors in Israel too, with Bibi chief among them. The USA, meanwhile, has typically done the bare minimum to restrain either side and has typically provided too much support IMO to Israel, ultimately enabling them.
This is not a black and white issue that it often gets boiled down to, with offending camps believing they are 100% the victims/right while the otherside is 100% evil/aggressor.
As for using violence, also keep in mind that if you throw punches, people will punch back. Picking a fight with a far, far more powerful force is going to result in you getting your ass kicked.
While I abhor how heavily Israel obliterated Gaza, I can also tell you that it was the inevitable outcome once Hamas and their allies starting (allegedly)cooking babies in ovens and mass mudering peaceful concert goers.
If someone going to use violence, understand that your opponents are going to use it too. Don't throw a punch and then cry because you (not you specifically, but people generally) got your ass beat.
They didn't hold the crew ransom, they blew them up with missiles and caused such a huge turmoil in supply chains that the cost of shipping went up by shitloads and affected the livelihoods of workers all across the world and affected cost of goods for consumers all over the world
That's just how blockades work; what else do you want them to do?
well, I dunno, maybe not blockade?
Uh... You do know why they're imposing a blockade right?
Hard to argue that this is really a blockade. Maybe in the broadest sense. It's a violent rebel group attacking civilians in hopes of punishing political rivals with no other clear objective. That's basically the definition of terrorism.
What do you imagine happens when a ship violates a blockade? Because I doubt they just get a slap on the wrist.
It's a violent rebel group attacking civilians in hopes of punishing political rivals with no other clear objective.
So first, the claim they're a "violent rebel group" is based on the American claim that their preferred government is the legitimate government of Yemen. That aside the Houthi blockade is meant to force Israel to let aid into Gaza, not just "punish them". If that's terrorism then every act of war is terrorism.
The Houthis lifted the blockade as soon as aid was allowed into Gaza. The only valid argument was if the blockade would continue despite Israel lifting the forced starvation on Gaza.
Damaging trade through the Suez effects everyone negatively. If anything this will be one of his more popular moves.
Yes someone please think of the Economy! /S
Yes?
- person with no financial burdens
Ah no your poor financial burdens. If only there was another way to live.
I mean, literally, if only. Not the dude you're arguing with. Am another dude.
Sure we can dream up other ways to live, and we collectively could achieve them. But for many, many people it's simply not possible right now
Houthis the leaders of the free world. What a timeline.
Ah yes, one of Iran’s proxies - leaders of the free world and gender apartheid /s
Ffs people…
Yes, the people standing up to genocide.
Say some words about headscarves and trans people while America and Israel are actively massacring the very people you are pretending to defend.. You must care so much about them.
What, participating in one genocide isn't enough for Trump? Now he has to join Bonesaw's one against the Yemenis too?
The US has been selling weapons to Saudi Arabia for a long time and hasn't stopped even with the genocide in Yemen starting in 2014. There are 3 Presidents that are complicit in this, so he isn't really joining the genocide just ramping up US involvement.
As much as I hate Trump, the Houthis are a prime example of FAFO. Their smart move would have been to lay quiet while Trump continues to build up his own hate club at home. Instead, they're delaying and possibly averting an impeachment by rallying some behind his actions.
So first, nobody in America cares about the non-Palestinian Middle East enough for "some" to rally behind him just because he bombed some Yemenis. Second, you think Trump is ever going to be impeached? That's wishful thinking with all three branches of government controlled by the GOP. Third, why the hell would the Houthis care about Trump or want him impeached? If anything an incompetent authoritarian twat like Trump is everything they could ask for. Finally, you want them to just munch on some popcorn while Israel starves Gaza to death?
nobody in America cares about the non-Palestinian Middle East enough for “some” to rally behind him just because he bombed some Yemenis
Your average American does care about the economy and price of common items, oil, etc, and Houthis bombing the most important trade route in the world directly effects that.
America is already fucking itself economy wise, I'm not sure the Houthis are going to effect it much more negatively. And last time the Houthis were successful in their endeavors and will probably be again.
Liberal try not to defend genocide and support Republicans difficulty level impossible