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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's called a poll tax, and it's supposed to be illegal.

A lot of things are supposed to be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Enforcement is the only part legality that really matters.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's called a poll tax, and yes it's supposed to be illegal. What godforsaken state (they all are in their own special way.) is pulling that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Any state that requires ID to vote + any state that charges a fee for said ID. Granted, ID's are used for more than that, it's still ultimately a poll tax.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think many of those states either have to allow alternative forms of identification, or have to provide a separate ID for voting only. So they technically aren't a poll tax, just drive 7 hours to this place, and then wait a long line for 5 hours to fill out a form in person and don't forget to bring your birth certificate / naturalization papers (which cost money to obtain lol).

"What's that? You don't have a car and have to go to work 12 hours a day and don't have the time? Welp, too bad, pleb."

TLDR: Loopholes

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

It's not a regular ID to vote. It's a regular ID.

You need an ID to vote, but you can use it for many other things too.

If getting an ID is a barrier for you to vote, then talk to your representatives and they might be able to help you out.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

It should be illegal but Roberts doesn't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

You're thinking of the 24th Amendment, which reads:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

The way your state (and many others) gets around this is because the fee to get your ID is not technically a tax. It's a fee. It's a rather silly semantic difference, but that's how the law works. You're not paying a tax, and your right to vote isn't being restricted because you didn't pay a tax. You are being required to have a photo ID to vote, and the form of photo ID you've chosen to get (which might well be the easiest to access) requires you pay a fee to acquire.

Yes, this seems like a minor pedantic difference, but that's kinda the point. The people who push these voter ID laws are doing the exact same thing people in the Jim Crow South did when they created poll taxes, poll tests, grandfather clauses, etc. They are trying to skirt around a law (in this case, the 24th Amendment, back then the 15th Amendment) in order to restrict the right to vote from people who should be protected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

What state are you in? Some states have a free ID for voting purposes. Don't get me wrong, it's still shitty that you have to go through that but see if yours is one of them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It’s a valid question if you live in a state that will only accept forms of ID which cost money to vote. I don’t know if that’s really the case anywhere, but if it were it could presumably be the subject of a lawsuit.

With the current SC, I expect that they’d find some bogus rationale why it didn’t count, but under a law respecting court, it’d be reasonable to require such states to provide suitable IDs at no cost.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you are unable to afford the fee for a state id then you would be considered indigent and would be able to get some kind of waver for the fee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So something is only a fee if you can’t afford it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Reverse. It's only a fee if you can afford it. If you can't afford it, it's free.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This government has shown already they don't care what the constitution says

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Tbf its was the state governments that were doing this, and the pre-2017 administration were suing the states' voter ID laws for their unconstitutionality, but convieniently, those lawsuits got dropped after Jan 20 2017 🤔 (orange cheeto reign)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Loopholes baby!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

$50!? Was $10 last time I checked my state.