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[–] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

They used AI to destroy AI

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

This is getting ridiculous. Can someone please ban AI? Or at least regulate it somehow?

[–] petaqui@lemmings.world 1 points 3 hours ago

As for everything, it has good things, and bad things. We need to be careful and use it in a proper way, and the same thing applies to the ones creating this technology

[–] Slaxis@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

The problem is, how? I can set it up on my own computer using open source models and some of my own code. It’s really rough to regulate that.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Once a technology or even an idea is there, you can't really make it go away - ai is here to stay. The generative LLM are just a small part.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Jokes on them. I'm going to use AI to estimate the value of content, and now I'll get the kind of content I want, though fake, that they will have to generate.

[–] VeloRama@feddit.org 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Should have called it "Black ICE".

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 18 hours ago

Definitely falls under the category of a Trap ICE card.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have no idea why the makers of LLM crawlers think it's a good idea to ignore bot rules. The rules are there for a reason and the reasons are often more complex than "well, we just don't want you to do that". They're usually more like "why would you even do that?"

Ultimately you have to trust what the site owners say. The reason why, say, your favourite search engine returns the relevant Wikipedia pages and not bazillion random old page revisions from ages ago is that Wikipedia said "please crawl the most recent versions using canonical page names, and do not follow the links to the technical pages (including history)". Again: Why would anyone index those?

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 6 hours ago

They want everything, does it exist, but it's not in their dataset? Then they want it.

They want their ai to answer any question you could possibly ask it. Filtering out what is and isn't useful doesn't achieve that

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Because it takes work to obey the rules, and you get less data for it. The theoretical competitor could get more ignoring those and get some vague advantage for it.

I'd not be surprised if the crawlers they used were bare-basic utilities set up to just grab everything without worrying about rules and the like.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 21 hours ago

Because you are coming from the perspective of a reasonable person

These people are billionaires who expect to get everything for free. Rules are for the plebs, just take it already

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

I’m imagining a sci-fi spin on this where AI generators are used to keep AI crawlers in a loop, and they accidentally end up creating some unique AI culture or relationship in the process.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess this is what the first iteration of the Blackwall looks like.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 18 points 1 day ago

Gotta say "AI Labyrinth" sounds almost as cool.

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