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“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And when the police arrived they started questioning him about whether he agreed with Trump on deportations and Gaza. The police questioning people on their political views seems to be becoming standard in the USA.

“Why are they saying you pushed a priest?”

“They were trying to pull me away from the pulpit. I grabbed the pulpit and just held on. I didn’t push anyone. They had four guys grabbing me and dragging me off there.”

“What made you want to preach today?” “I’m worried about human beings, our brothers and sisters who live within our midst and are being targeted by the government.”

“What do you consider to be targeted by the government? What class of people are you …”

“Undocumented immigrants.”

“So you don’t agree with deportations and things like that?”

“Uh-huh.”

“Did you say anything like that?”

“I didn’t even get there.”

Looking at a copy of Gillcrist’s prepared remarks, the officer said, “So I see you mention Gaza and Ukraine in here. What’s your message with that?”

“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

[–] [email protected] 160 points 2 months ago

“They’re our brothers and sisters. When we stop seeing people that way it’s so easy to start making laws or enacting policies that harm them.”

Oh yeah, this guy is a real hatemonger.

Remember, with Trump in power cops don't need to pretend anymore.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes

Long hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we'd just nail him up
If he came down again

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me

Jesus Was A Capricorn - Kris Kristofferson

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

-- Abraham Whistler

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can't get past the fact you rhymed food with shoes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

you may want to take that up with the author

[–] [email protected] 119 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“It’s inappropriate.”

"To pray?”

“There’s an appropriate time.”

“It is the appropriate time.”

“No, you have to listen to your authorities, which is your pastor.”

Jesus Christ.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

They are all sheep who wish to be wolves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Authorities?

A pastor isn't much of an authority, is he? I'm from the UK, so the religious are seen more as kooks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The UK has a national church.

You have a national religion.

Not all of your religious are seen as kooks

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I suppose my meaning is the "strongly religious" - as in the ones who include it as part of their identity - are seen as kooks.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, no way We're letting a long haired, bearded freak into our church....

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wanted to reply with a picture of black Jesus, but holy shit, image searche yields just page after page of garbage AI art. Mostly from etsy. Often without nipples, because AI still can’t figure out brown nipples on brown people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

because AI still can’t figure out brown nipples on brown people

I needed that laugh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Don't let the man get you down

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A catholic is surprised the catholic church is an authoritarian shithole.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

He was a theology teacher. I think he knows. The article says he knew that church was conservative but thought they might be the best group to hear his message because they don't hear such from anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

a man in sunglasses with slick back hair and a beard

Not even Jesusy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More people need to be doing this at churches. Its the easiest way to fix the free speech narratives:

"why are churches trying to ban the words of jesus?" "These are public spaces that get tax breaks for being public spaces, why is there censorship in these places"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but also, the craziest people will say either A. That the pastor should be the one preaching (like the people in this case did) or B. That that’s really just politics (even if you’re literally quoting there Bible), and politics should stay out of the church

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure the media will say things. But like half of these maga chuds go to church. Its about making them question the media by affecting their churches. When the media is lying about things they can see, it makes them doubt.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He has long hair and a beard

*glances around nervously*

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

""Look at me, I'm a grad student. I'm 30 years old and I made $600 last year!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

clutches pearls

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Fucking legend.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m an Episcopal priest, and I’m trying to imagine how I’d respond to this. The only time I’ve ever had to ask someone to leave was when a, say, mentally unbalanced man came into the church and screamed profanity at me in the middle of the service and told me that I needed the permission of the Korean consulate to preach (this was a white guy in a Navy sailor’s cap, in Hawai’i where I live—not sure what his deal with Korea was). He did this twice over a couple years and I have a person who works with unhoused veterans in my parish who’s told me that she’d been instructed not to interact with the guy because he was deemed too dangerous. So, asking him to leave was a safety issue. But no one tackled him.

I’d like to think that I’d let this guy have his say. If he’s not cussing anyone out or getting violent, I’d probably let him talk and then invite him to hang out and talk some after the service. I sure as shit wouldn’t demand him to “respect my authoritah” or see him tackled to the ground. That is something I can’t wrap my head around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey father! How long have you been doing your job? And how's it changed in the time you've done it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Been a priest almost 14 years. As for the change question, are you asking me about my own personal experience of doing the work of a priest, or how has the church at large changed during my time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personal experience would be really interesting if you could share?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for late-reply/paleo-posting this one. I’d say the biggest personal change I’ve experienced since my ordination is how “broad” a lot of my thinking has become as I’ve delved deeper into the traditions of the Church. Christianity is so much more (good) weird than we often allow it to be, to our detriment. And we don’t have to abandon the traditions in order to become “progressive.”

I came from a Southern Baptist upbringing that was very homophobic. I began to question that alongside my shift into Anglican/Episcopal Christianity. My studies into the ancient aspects of the Church wound up making me far more open to various Queer identities than I would have imagined as a teenager. So that’s a big change.

The other is that I’m absolutely convinced that Christianity is supposed to be about telling people that they no longer have to try and save themselves. God loves us as we are, a place in His kingdom is ready for us. We just wind up robbing ourselves of something liberating when we keep thinking that God has abandoned us and throwing each other under the bus. Jesus doesn’t save some at the expense of others. He saves all of us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's really interesting thanks so much for sharing

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Seems like some apologies and confession seems to be in order here and not by Jimbo. Wow!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What an unfortunate coincidence that this man, Jimbo Gillchrist, has almost exactly the same name as Jim Gilchrist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Quantum entanglement.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

A church to the antichrist. You will treat the sorjourner as your own.