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Stumbled across this quick post recently and thought it was a really good tale and worth sharing.


A couple of weeks ago, I saw a tweet asking: "If Linux is so good, why aren't more people using it?" And it's a fair question! It intuitively rings true until you give it a moment's consideration. Linux is even free, so what's stopping mass adoption, if it's actually better? My response:

  • If exercising is so healthy, why don't more people do it?
  • If reading is so educational, why don't more people do it?
  • If junk food is so bad for you, why do so many people eat it?

The world is full of free invitations to self-improvement that are ignored by most people most of the time. Putting it crudely, it's easier to be fat and ignorant in a world of cheap, empty calories than it is to be fit and informed. It's hard to resist the temptation of minimal effort.

And Linux isn't minimal effort. It's an operating system that demands more of you than does the commercial offerings from Microsoft and Apple. Thus, it serves as a dojo for understanding computers better. With a sensei who keeps demanding you figure problems out on your own in order to learn and level up.

Now I totally understand why most computer users aren't interested in an intellectual workout when all they want to do is browse the web or use an app. They're not looking to become a black belt in computing fundamentals.

But programmers are different. Or ought to be different. They're like firefighters. Fitness isn't the purpose of firefighting, but a prerequisite. You're a better firefighter when you have the stamina and strength to carry people out of a burning building on your shoulders than if you do not. So most firefighters work to be fit in order to serve that mission.

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

Besides, if you're able to figure out how to setup a modern build pipeline for JavaScript or even correctly configure IAM for AWS, you already have all the stamina you need for the Linux journey. Think about giving it another try. Not because it is easy, but because it is worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Sysadmin here. I use Linux a lot on the job and in my homelab, but it's true, I don't wasn't firefighting exercises off the clock. I just want to use my computer. Also, my systems are used by the whole family, and they sure as hell don't want to learn Linux and become IT zealots.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Development led me directly to installing Linux because Windows is bad for dev...

I fell into the warm embrace of KDE and GNOME environments in 2022 and have never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because windows and Mac just works, without touching terminal for a single second! There is your .

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I’ve used Linux Mint for about ten years. I’ve used terminal once - only because that specific laptop had some trackpad or WiFi (can’t remember which) issue. I just typed in a few lines and that was it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I’ll give an alternative opinion.

Im a software engineer and have been doing it for many years. I’m comfortable with various Linux distros. I build software for and deploy software to various Linux instances. I maintain Linux systems and overall like using Linux for these purposes.

When I come home, I turn on my windows PC and it just works. I don’t want to maintain a Linux system at home because it feels like work and I don’t want to work at home. Yes, most days I’d not need to do anything, but some days I would. And those days I’d prefer not to.

It is less about not wanting intellectual exercise and more about already having worked out today, so I’d rather relax with junk food and watch Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I get the sentiment of your point, and it's a fair one. But I have found it to not really hold up to scrutiny anymore. Once I became familiar with Linux at a very base level, I found it ''just works'' more often than Windows. Especially for the ''just relax, eat junk food and watch netflix'' style of using a computer.

Like, in that sense, I feel like I have to ''maintain'' Windows more often, in that I am constantly having to get it out of my way (i.e. turn off adds, deal with automatic updates, etc). My daily use Linux install works the same every day I turn it on.

Don't get me wrong, I get that learning a new system is harder than dealing with the problems of the one you already know. But if you can use Windows and Linux, and don't require some proprietary software on Windows, Linux seems to be way ahead in the ''it just works, and works predictably and easy'' category imho.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree about windows maintenance. Mint has been easier and more stable than windows for me. The biggest hurdles were getting it set up - partitioning, mounting drives, etc. In windows that just happens.

But, actual day-to-day operation? Much easier in Mint.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years, but it was always too intimidating for me since I'm not a computer programmer. In the end, it took a roommate who was tech savvy to help install it and answer a few questions. Took about 10 minutes of his time but I still felt like a burden

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

good take while I love Linux I must admit it has been quite the struggle sometimes. But everything worthwhile in life takes effort. It's not everybody's cup of tea and I like it that way actually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

dhh isn't advocating for linux for everybody per se; instead it's addressed at programmers and similar folk who regard linux as way too complex for everyday use. the background story being that he was an Apple fanboy for the longest time and recently made the switch and now can't shut up about it. as a result they (basecamp) developed some insane rice setup that has to be seen to be believed, it's beyond ridiculous.

as an aside, I've met those people he's talking at and they regularly blow my mind. like, how can you utilize a modern toolchain for practically every possible development scenario using an OS that actively fights you every step of the way, the abomination called WSL notwithstanding...

so the idea is the brogrammers will become the early adopters and by way of trickle-down-tech linux will make its way to normies, same way e.g. Android did.

I don't think that's gonna happen in the foreseeable future. the options, distros, DEs, whatevers are way too fragmented and fragile and are infested with the most deluded, rabid "fans" there are, each and everyone of them mired in truckloads of "no true scottsman" fallacies.

Apple has a vertically integrated tech stack - there is one DE, one WM, one codebase for every product they sell and they are free to focus their sinister efforts elsewhere, backed by the deepest coffers there are.

contrast this with the myriad of distros, package managers, DEs, WMs, etc. each pulling in a different direction, abandoned paths and duplicated efforts galore, done predominantly with no funds to speak of; and if there are any, they are squandered on... what was it, shamans?

no math in this universe is gonna make team #2 catch up to team #1, let alone surpass it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I can't use Linux because I can't get the medication I need to read through the documentation. I am literally unable to focus on pages of details on my own and it's crippling. If any issues come up, like trying to get an nVidia card to work, I can't get through the help documents.

Linux is unhelpful by being so open. As much as folks don't like rails on their operating system, it helps some of us get work done. I want to like Linux and have a laptop with Mint but it's wireless card needs drivers and finding relief is non-existent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

There are computers purpose-built for running Linux, where all the drivers work out of the box.

Might be worth considering for your next upgrade.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Sysadmin here. I work with linux every day, live and breathe.

And both my actual workstation and my home machine are windows.

Because for tasks that aren't inherently problem-solvey, I don't want to have to problem-solve.

For tasks that need tools and technical skills and poking it with a stick, absolutely do them on linux. Logfiles, strace, tcpdump, your programming language of choice, all the tools in the box.

But for file/print/email/office/internet/media/video gaem, lolno fuck that. Save your creative ingenuity and mental bandwidth for the things that actually need it; you don't want to be reinventing the wheel every morning just to make breakfast.

For the mundane shit where you only care about the content, the UX on windows (or mac, for the people used to it) is just boringly unobtrusive, and thus the better choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That's why I'd love to see more developers take another look at Linux. Such that they may develop better proficiency in the basic katas of the internet. Such that they aren't scared to connect a computer to the internet without the cover of a cloud.

I worked at a company building Unix. Later, it built a few releases of a Linux distro too. The people there were proficient documenters and app dev; build, release and support (escalation) devs; and some kernel devs so blindingly smart it made us normies' tired just trying to keep up mentally.

Everyone used windows.

"Whot?!?" Yes, windows. Building Unix - the Unix - and a Linux distro, these super-capable black belts of the OS (borrowing your term) should be in Korn all day long.

Windows. WinAMP. VanDyke. Mozilla.

These people have the skill for it, but their preference was for windows. Because it was bad, but consistently so and presented a unified force to cope around.

I've worked on Linux my entire career, having used Linux since 94. But aside from a short window in 96, I've also done it with windows.

Windows. Spotify. Putty. SeaMonkey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Screen tearing and things not being simple

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Screen tearing is no longer an issue, at least on wayland. As for simple... it's different.

Painting your room is to windows like building a house is to linux.

Windows makes it simple to paint your room while linux enables you to build whatever house you want. Nothing is ever free and as such - sometimes certain tradeoffs have to be made that get in a way of what you might consider "simple".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

If you have other takes then let's discuss here!

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