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When a community needs to move to another instance, it can be a rocky process.

It doesn't need to be, though - as long as someone on your instance has been a part of the community for a while your instance will already have quite a lot of the content from the old community. All we need to do is change our record of which instance the community belongs to and that's what PieFed's new 'Move community' feature does. Check out the video for a quick demo.

The full process is:

  1. Ensure the copy of the community on this instance has been active long enough to receive a decent amount of posts. The move process will not copy posts so having an account on this instance subscribed to it for a while is the only way to get old posts here.

  2. Lock the old community to by setting it to 'moderators only' so no one else can post in it.

  3. Create a post in the old community announcing the impending move to piefed.social. Paste the url of that post into the field below.

  4. Submit the 'move community' form (there is a link in the sidebar of every remote community) to send the request to piefed.social admins.

  5. piefed.social admins will review your request, turn this community into a local one and contact you.

  6. Update your announcement post in the old community to encourage people to join the new community at
    [email protected].

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess it doesn't bring the followers along with it? like Mastodon does for transferring accounts

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope, not possible at the moment

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But it could be a notification :

The community has moved to...

Very cool feature :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it automatically locks communities too so it already kind of does this :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep it kinda do it but i thought it as notification for users and they may click on "migrate" :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The process outlined above is "co-operative" in the sense that the moderators of the old community have decided to make the move and initiate the process themselves using their piefed.social accounts.

But also anyone could choose to 'fork' the old community, with or without the old community mods involvement. The old community would not be locked and would continue as-is while the local copy of it would then be a separate community with all the old content in it. They would then diverge from that point onwards.

I imagine there might sometimes be a need to reverse this process too, to re-associate a local community with it's remote counterpart. Or to merge two communities...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why not post it on PeerTube? We need more content there. Could have been a good and sneaky oppertunity to promote another fediverse product. Still a good and helpful video.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can you recommend an instance?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

This post lists some well-federated instances

https://lemmy.wtf/post/15816115

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No I can't unfortunetly. I don't have an account on PeerTube because I couldn't find content on there that would have interested me. But if you post your video I would probably look into to make me an account and give you a like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe on the same instance where you did the interview ? :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Best is the enemy of the good, Youtube works for this case.

You can probably upload it to a Peertube instance, I guess @[email protected] wouldn't mind

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course it works but isn't this community about the fediverse? I have the feeling that some of the fediverse services don't get used enough to be useable, like PeerTube. Another point is when we are already in the ecosystem of the fediverse with beeing on Lemmy why should we post media ment for the fediverse outside from it? Isn't the idea of fediverse to be an alternative to YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram and the others? Don't get me wrong here, my intention is not to criticize someone. I only thought it could be a good oppertunity to promote another fediverse service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can probably upload it to a Peertube instance, I guess @[email protected] wouldn’t mind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to force my ideas on people, I like to share and chat about them but I feel if I upload it myself I would kind of force the idea. Also it is his video I think he should be in control of where it is posted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really, as someone who regularly gets "you should give an archive.org link as well" when I post paywalled content, I really appreciate when people do provide additional links so that I can add them to the OP. It feels more like we are collaborating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get that point but I don't say "you should" but rather "you could". Also I think the example you give is a bit different because here we have someone (an individual) who took his time to create something which is different to other people sharing additional info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rimu is already quite busy with the Piefed updates. He took the last resistance path to upload the video. If people want to promote Peertube in the process, they're free to reupload the content.

Seems counterproductive to me to expect one person to do all the work instead of collaborating

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think we will find an aggreement.

  • It's his decision to post it or not
  • I will not post peoples contents on my account without their permission
  • I'm happy to collaborate
  • I don't expect one person to do all the work
  • I don't expect anyone to do any work
  • If he don't want to post on PeerTube then he dosn't need to

I don't want to escalate this discussion. It was just an idea of maybe putting it also on PeerTube without force, expectations or demands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Seems like we have a different interpretation of your first comment.

Let's agree to disagree, have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's a cool feature, though as long as it's Piefed-to-Piefed only it's kind of of limited use. It also doesn't transfer over subscriptions right? That's still the biggest problem with community migration in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't do subscriptions. That would need to be initiated on the old community and currently all the old communities are on Lemmy instances, so that's a non-starter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could it be possible at some point in the future? Once we'll have more Piefed instances people might want to move a few communities from one to another

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, for sure. I think the old community would Announce a Move activity to all followers, which would cause all the other instances to update their Follows to point to the new community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Piefed-to-Piefed only it’s kind of of limited use.

On the other hand, it might drive people to Piefed more knowing they can transfer communities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It move a Lemmy's community to PieFed.

So for anyone who like PieFed's features as

  • admin board, trusted instance
  • managing downvote per communities
  • tags
  • regrouping several communities
  • merging comment from a crosspost...

it's very handy. :)

Once mobile support is there, I plan to migrate several of my Lemmy communities to PieFed and offer another experience to my readers. But of course, i will ask my readers first.

So in fact, it's open to all lemmy users. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So what exactly does that do AP wise? Does it send out a MOVE activitiy of any kind? Do other instances get an activity by which they can tell that the community has moved and can they confirm that the new instance has the authority, so the permission, to move it from the old instance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If I understand correctly, Lemmy users are currently not able to see the migrated posts.

Question: If someone replies to a Lemmy user's post or comment which was migrated, will that Lemmy user be notified?

Example: I left a comment under this post back when it was on [email protected]. I can't currently see the piefed copy of my comment (or that post) on my home instance. What happens when someone replies to it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes it's pretty janky.

But it's better than losing the content entirely :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does show up as a comment in https://piefed.social/c/internetisbeautiful, but not on https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected].

I posted a test reply from my PieFed account, but never received a reply notification on my sh.itjust.works account.

@[email protected]

If the original posters never see new replies, are there sufficient advantages to warrant leaving the comment sections open?

It feels similar (though not identical) to projects mirroring posts and comments from Reddit. Sure, the content is there, but the people aren't.

Might it be better to lock all of the threads upon migration, essentially preserving a "read-only" archive?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, thanks for considering my suggestion! Do you have any estimate on when it might be implemented?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, I'm still looking into it. It may be possible to make Lemmy able to see migrated posts. I did some experiments but it could be a dead end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It may be possible to make Lemmy able to see migrated posts

Ooh, that would be even better! Is there anywhere I can follow progress on this?