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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Explanation: The US Civil War was kicked off in 1861 after the election of the antislavery candidate Abraham Lincoln in late 1860. The radical antislavery position Lincoln held?

... that slavery shouldn't be allowed to expand outside of the South.

Not "Slavery must be immediately destroyed by the Federal government". Not even "Slavery in the South must be reduced by the Federal government." Just "No expansion."

Obviously, to the slaver cunts, this was unacceptable oppression, and they then attempted to secede after losing said democratic election.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I may be incorrect, but wasn't Lincoln's position even less direct and was "new states should decide for themselves", but the south wanted "new states have an automatic yes"?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Lincoln was opposed to the expansion of slavery into the territories, and believed that the Federal government did not have the power to remove or prevent slavery from expanding into states, but could do so to territories.

One of his Democratic opponents in the election, Douglas, took the 'moderate' position of letting territories decide for themselves, while the majority South opinion championed by his other Democratic opponent, Breckenridge, was that slavery could not be forbidden from the territories.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Literally anyone with privilege, when they lose even a sliver of that privilege: "I am being oppressed"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

"When someone is used to privilege, equity feels like oppression” or something

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Replace with modern Republicans, and nothing has changed!

Are we great yet?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

When in doubt, listen

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Democrats during the civil war: who will work the fields except for this easily exploitable labor force?

Democrats during Jim crow: who will work the fields except for this easily exploitable labor force?

Democrats now: who will work the fields except for this easily exploitable labor force?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Replace democrats with Rural White Landowners and you would be right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not the running theme there. Rural white landowners are against immigrants now. The thing connecting them is the Democratic party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s not the running theme there. Rural white landowners are against immigrants now.

Oh no, they're for immigrants. They just don't want immigrants to have any rights. If they're constantly in fear of being deported, they can be exploited in all sorts of fun ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How on Earth do you get "we want them here" from "deport them"?????

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From the massive numbers of undocumented immigrants rural white landowners employ despite US employment standards making it nearly impossible for any serious business to accidentally and unknowingly hire undocumented immigrants over-the-table.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do you honestly think that most rural landowners are corporate farms or some shit? Because they aren't. The vast majority own 100 acres or less, and don't really have much need for extra hands. Hell, Id wager that most of them don't even farm or ranch or whatever. Hell, my brother in law's father is a Sheriff and owns forty acres of woods. One of my buddies has 30 some acres and does jack shit with it aside from store rusty cars. And his buddy has over a hundred acres of deer lease. None of them have employees, legal or other wise. I myself have nine acres, most of which is flood plain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

i wish recognizing the shitty situation we are in doubled as coping, cause i need a whole bunch of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans now: "the same people, but now as unpaid prison slaves!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The government is trying to limit what i can do with my rightful property. Why shouldn't I be able to take my property with me wherever I move?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

this one extends to the modern day in some ways