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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Goomers and hoomers and foomers and schroomers are all alike and your generation is smarter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am gen z and know how to use a computer

Most of us should have been taught how to use computers in school then we expand our knowledge from there on our own

Is this an american only problem?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, I don't actually know how to rotate a pdf. I re-learn it every few years, then immediately forget it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Pdfsam. At least that was the best way when I last needed to rotate a PDF about 500 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I thought they would be wiz kids...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Me too. They were born with phones in their hands, right? Understanding technology should be like breathing to them! But it turns out they started using it after corporations had locked it down and simplified it, so they only know how to use apps, not how any of it actually works.

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[–] Sat 6 points 1 month ago

They know how to use technology but they have no idea how it works or what to do if it breaks.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gen X checking in here. I’m actually happy to be left out of the memes. Carry on.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Never judge a fish by how well it climbs a tree.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

As a dev, the divide between apps users and computer software users is fascinating. My mom can do things in instagram or whatsapp that I didn't even know possible.. but put her in front of a modern computer with a simple application and she's completely lost! I try to explain that it's exactly the same as her phone its just a larger screen/physical keybaord with different apps, doesn't seem to help.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Youth bad, hate youth

Haha funny

This is the same rhetoric the Boomers used to keep us down.

Every generation is smarter than the last, us millennials need to learn to cope without ageist propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm not a millenial, I'm a part of gen z.

A high amount of this generation is hopeless when it comes to tech. There is outliers and exceptions, but as a whole, tech literacy has gone down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm a millennial computer scientist

This is literally propaganda

This is the exact same as boomers thinking they are superior to millennials for knowing how to drive stick shift or write cursive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But both cursive and manual stick shift (at least in the USA) are being used less and less, but computers are being used more, while literacy goes down.

I think it has to do with barrier of entry. Way back in the day, you had to be quite the hacker to operate a computer (say Amiga or ZX Spectrum). Then, with Windows XP (or 98), it became easier to operate one, but some tasks still required clever ways to solve. Fast forward to now, all you have to do is click one icon at the bottom bar, write what you want in the top bar, and you got a billion answers.

Most of the stuff I learned was because the path to successfully perform stuff required knowing lots of different stuff.

For context, first PC was Win 98 when I was 7, born 1996.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is this some Acrobat functionality or something?

Off the top of my head, there's pdfjam, pdftk and imagemagick (don't forget the --dpi switch) who could probably do that, after reading the man pages. Or ghostscript' gs, if you want to go in-depth.

But generally, just rotate the source material you've got the pdf from. That's how it is intended.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Guess me and my partner are exceptional zoomers? Them having a diploma in computer science and i am a software developer

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Eh PDFs are just annoying to deal with. I could do this stuff the adobe acrobat when I had the paid version in school but I'm cheap and no longer have it. If I'm feeling desperate I'll find the ghostscript command that does it otherwise I just do something horrible (for example scanning to jpeg rather than PDF creating an HTML page with both images and printing that to PDF)

From writing a limited amount of code to generate PDFs from scratch the standard is just cursed. It was using 7 bit ASCII until fairly recently resulting in an eighth of the document being wasted space. Also when they switched to PDFs being an open standard the specs went from something freely available on adobe's web site to a challege of how to send 98 swiss francs to ISO to get access.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Helped a Zoomer coworker build a PC for gaming and was then shocked watching him try to navigate Windows and being confused on basic things. Then I realized that, yeah, he probably never really used a desktop for much unlike us Millennials who grew up sitting at desks. He’s doing much better a couple years later so they are definitely able to adapt though!

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