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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Admittedly, I don't know much about modern speedboats, but the full flip probably saved their lives. In the old days, flipping onto your head at damn near 200 mph was certain death.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea that flip and rotation definitely saved them, you can see in the video they slow down drastically in the air while the top of the boat was pointing mostly forward, although they likely also experienced some drastic gforce changes as it happened.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was gonna say, did the pilot live?

Good number of hydroplane/powerboat deaths/maimings over the years...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both lived and were not seriously injured.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And that is what I would describe as the only kind of miracle I believe can actually happen.

Roughly on par with 'bailed out of an airplane, crashed through some trees, landed in a snowbank, only suffered a few fractures and actually lived.'

Something like that happened a few times in WW2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These guys wore safety gear and were strapped in. Read tha article

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He described the relief of seeing both people on board the boat pop open the hatch. “Oh my gosh, it’s just a miracle,” Ticknor said.

Ticknor being the event organizer.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sSl2846EPl4

The pilots suffered multiple fractures, including a broken knee.

I'd call a broken knee alone a serious injury...

Had their injuries been more serious, they may have been unable to escape the sinking boat.

Had the boat landed in a different orientation, or done a different, completely undpredictable, uncontrolled aerial manuever, such that it impacted the water with more speed, the boat could have broken apart on landing or become structurally comprised much more seriously, and thus the pilots would be sinking much more rapidly, likely with more serious injuries.

Though this boat and its safety cage performed admirably in terms of structural stability... similar crashes to this have maimed and killed a good number of folks in the history of hydroplane/powerboat events.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

k, it's time to wind down the whole we're-just-burning-fossil-fuels-for-fun stuff now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

i doubt the actual motorsports are the biggest carbon emissions of stuff like this

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

A lot of these racing applications are what drive innovations in power and efficiency in the rest of the automotive field since they're constantly improving engines to squeeze as much power out of them as they can. Banning this stuff will have little to no impact on pollution and just needlessly piss a bunch of people off, driving allies away from the cause.

It's like the whole plastic straw ban that achieved nothing and made a bunch of people look like fools. Meanwhile, giant corporations are packaging items in single-use plastic packaging and using 10,000x as much plastic with nary a peep from those politicians' grandstanding over straws. Furthermore, every paper straw I've ever gotten has been wrapped in a plastic bag.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Running boats like this for 10 seconds costs nothing compared to a mega yacht.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, i'm certainly ok with a fully electric motorboat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you do if you run out of electricity while out on the water? At least with an EV you can get out and walk but that's a different story on a boat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Same what you do when your boat runs out of gasoline? Doesn't matter what powers your engine if you don't watch your tank or battery level you will have a problem.

Apart from that: This is about racing boats. They're never alone somewhere on the open sea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Check out SailGP. It's got some flaws, but they did actually manage to design a sailboat race that goes fast enough to actually be interesting to watch in real-time.

flaws

  • I have my doubts that it's as eco-friendly as they claim, since they still use fossil fuels for support boats, shipping the sailboats across the world between events, etc.
  • It's pretty new and seems a little underfunded, so the production values and commentating can be a bit rough around the edges.
  • They try to make it accessible (e.g. by reporting speeds in kph instead of knots), but it's still got a whiff of yacht-club elitism to it.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

"STOP HAVING FUN!!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That time was like 30 years ago. Now we can either stop using them altogether and have a bad time, or we can keep using them and have a slightly more bad time.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

200 mph (322kph)

Everything but metric.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Am I missing something here? KPH is metric.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"kph" is an americanization. the unit is km/h. i'm assuming the commenter did not know this since the first abbreviation is not used it most languages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Fair enough. I Googled it just to double-check before posting, but Google isn't going to tell you whether terminology is regionally correct or not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Americans hate metric so much that they'd rather use metric!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe this is an SI purist and want to see meters per second or nothing? That would be silly because KPH is well used across the metric world, of course

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

yeah, but the US is one of the only country in the world that writes it as kph. most countries write it as km/h. Which can be confusing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

kph is just a stupid way of saying km/h

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

In all seriousness, I think that there might be a good argument, in 2025, for converting races, be they car or boat or whatnot, to be remotely-driven.

We've got the technology today.

It'd permit for higher speeds and suchlike, and eliminate some requirements.

The audience doesn't get the drama of the driver maybe being killed in an accident, but by-and-large, blood sport has faded into history.

There are clearly some people who watch racing for the crashes


but it's possible to have the crashes and have vehicles potentially destroyed without the drivers being killed too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That defeats the whole point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, I suppose it depends on what people are out for. Like I said, if it's death that they're interested in, then, yeah, it would. But if they're okay with the crashes without the death, then I'd think that it'd be okay.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sport requires human drama.

No fans would watch robots race, unless they were rooting for a human to win.

Just gamblers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not gonna lie, a pure engineering contest without the restrictions feel like a very cool idea. See what the true limits car engineers can achieve in a race if they didn't even need to consider driver safety. There exists a lot of restrictions on racing leagues for driver safety, as it should. But without drivers, you can pretty much throw all of it away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These types of events exist already. There's stuff like the DARPA races, "battle bots," VEX and LEGO robotic, RC car races, drone races, etc.

Regarding your point about removing limitations without a driver, currently anything that would harm a driver in a race is going to destroy the car too, so I can't imagine what would really change in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There a lot of numbers higher than the 9Gs that are safe-ish and reasonable-ish for human drivers/pilots to experience regularly. A big bag of water with bones inside that likes to breathe doesn't take well to high levels of acceleration, eg. really fast turns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Outside of planes, I don't know that any land or water based vehicle could pull 9Gs as you're limited by the traction of the tires and whatever physics effect boats on the water.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If robots were racing, people would be rooting for the remote pilot, or the team that built it, or the designers of the engine, etc...

Does no one remember Robot Wars or any spinoffs thereof?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they get NASCAR ratings?

And those battles were a quite a bit more action than oval track racing.

Maybe you would get figure 8 courses or mario kart tracks, but i do not believe that will keep viewers interested long term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I dunno, maybe that's true. People like watching humans be in danger, that's true.

Monster Truck shows probably don't need humans though. We like watching stuff get crushed by big things even if humans aren't involved!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

These drivers understand the danger they're getting into when entering these races.

Why do you want to take their bodily autonomy away from them by preventing them from doing something that they love? I'd much rather take a wall at 200MPH in a race car than go out from a heart attack while taking my morning shit or getting T-boned on my commute to the office.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hahahah no. Humans haven't changed. We still love to gawk at death and pain. We just don't want to admit it directly.

Rubber-neckers slowing down the highway for a crash on the other side aren't doing it to make sure they are safe. They are hoping to spot some gore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unless you like TOOL.

"I want to watch things die from a good safe distance. Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

If theres no risk of complete assholes burning up or crumpling into a pancake during a car race then the race sucks ass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess these guys have never heard of ground effect or air compressing at high speed.

I'm guessing none of them want to admit to these effects if you want to keep a propeller in the water the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those effects are key to the design of these boats. They're essentially a wing.

Water has a lot more drag than air, so the more the boat is out of the water, the faster it can go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Though it makes me wonder why they don't use actual wings to maintain control over the boat when it goes too far out of the water. Why isn't the ideal basically a plane that has a propeller sticking down into the water?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly, they didn't win the Darwin award. There's always next year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Were these terrible people or are you just wishing death on random people for making a poor choice for their own safety?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Not terrible people. At least the owner / one of the operators is a pretty awesome man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

They were being reckless... to win the award, that's all it takes. Evolution takes its course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Eh, anyone can do that mid-air. It takes skill to do it quarter-air.

/s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

What's a crash win?

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