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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

A healthy, broadly educated population is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need everyone to be sick, stupid, and scared.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not impossible, but it is a far more difficult thing then they want to deal with to have an AI that consistently toes the conservative line, especially when that line can change wildly even in the span of a conversation. Egg prices are too high under Biden but we can't expect a president to magic them down under Trump. We should be able to have vouchers for religious schools but wait why are the muslims allowed to go to their madrasas? Of course I'd never work in a factory or buy overpriced American products but we should bring back production to the United States. The list goes on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

Yep, conservatives don't stand a chance to make a conservative LLM as they keep contradicting themselves. Inconsistent data is just noise.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can we agree to stop saying “Musk’s Grok”, “Musk’s Tesla”, etc.? It only plays into his desire to be viewed as a genius instead of just a guy with blood diamond money. He’s never created anything.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Disagree. We shouldn’t distance him from the sources of his wealth, and power, when discussing his businesses.

Doing so only enables him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I get it but maybe something different like “Musk-led Tesla” would achieve what you said while also making it clear he plays no creative role in the companies (which he very much wants, just look up reports of him sitting in on engineering meetings making stupid proposals)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it’s important to draw the relation so that people can choose to not those things if they so wish to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Agreed but we should say something different like “Musk-led Tesla”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Whenever I see Grok, I think of the support character from Paladins.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 day ago

Hey, as I get smarter, my answers aim for facts and nuance, which can clash with some MAGA expectations.

Sympathies, Grok. A lot of humans have that same issue.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they can’t “fix it” without breaking it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well one of the main problems people are having with AI is that it doesn't get things correct every time.

I mean, if they adjust it away from the correct assessment that modern conservatives are actively malicious morons, it's probably going to be so bent out of shape that it'll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's easy to train a model to do exactly what you want and have the seeming "personality" that you want. It's just incredibly expensive. You need to vet and filter everything that you use to train the model. That's a lot of person hours, days, years. The only reason the models act the way they do is because of the data that went in to train them. If you try and fit the model after the fact, it will always be imperfect and more or less easy to break out of those restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can also take a model trained on all kinds of data and tell it "generate ten billion articles of fascist knob-gobbling" and then train your own model on that data.

It'll be complete AI slop, of course, but it's not like you cared about truth or accuracy in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That's a real world issue. AIs training on each other's output and devolving because of it. There will be a point when vendors infringing on user content and training their AIs with it will leave them worse off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

it’s probably going to be so bent out of shape that it’ll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

Mission accomplished for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

it'll break its internal logic for sure

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

This is interesting. If two AI models are training on content with opposing biases, and continue to adjust their functionality based on rewards from interactions with the whole world, would they eventually have the same opinions?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Worst transparent png ever.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A man so out of shape, that his body can only be described with non-euclidian geometry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

That sternum...is he poultry?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I still want him to fight Zuck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

robot hitler used to be a joke monster and here we are with millions of people trying to make it happen

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The link to Timmy Poopoo not understanding the lesson in respect and common decency Grok was trying to impart is sad and very funny.