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Drivers Who Run Red Lights Get Tickets. E-Bike Riders Get Court Dates. (www.nytimes.com)

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Some worry that New York City’s crackdown on unsafe cyclists leaves them facing greater consequences than drivers, even though cars cause more fatalities.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

If they can catch me, nyoom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The bicycle infrastructure is decades behind the Europeans, especially the Netherlands and the large cities in Germany. For example, there are traffic signals controlling bicycle traffic. The other problem, the lawyers can defend an idiot running red lights on a bicycle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

especially [...] the large cities in Germany

Laughing and crying in Berlin here after just three near death experiences on my way to work.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think cyclists should be treated the same as drivers in so far as possible. And that includes obeying traffic signs, issuing of tickets and so on. I've almost been run over by cyclists who run red lights or go the wrong way up one way streets. It's small consolation that a bike is "lighter" than a car if it still means some 120kg asshole slams into you because rules are for other people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really? Bikes just as bad as cars? You see no difference in a bike hitting someone and a 3ton vehicle? Wow. Did you look at data, how many people get injured or killed by cars - and then compare it to data on Bikes?

And of course, who did not hear about terrorist attacks with bikes driving into crowds?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Where did I write they were directly equivalent or as bad when I didn't? Such an idiotic response quite honestly. At least address what I actually wrote not what you imagine I did.

This not a tough concept - the legal consequences for road users of varying types should be similar. Assholes on bikes are a thing and they should suffer the through the same legal framework as their vehicle brethren.