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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Good. Fuck cars.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this news? Singapore is a city of 6 million on an island that is only 45km across at its widest point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NYC is a smaller geographic city (municipal boundaries - 5 boros) and has 2 million more residents. Try implementing this there for a tenth of the price and see if there's riots at worst, and every elected official losing their next election at best.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Your math is off somewhere. Wikipedia claims that NYC has 302 square miles of land, while Singapore has 283.

This article estimates that the cost of owning a car in NYC is $3000-$5000 per month. So, you pay for the privilege, perhaps not as much up front.

But NYC is surrounded by places you can drive to. Singapore is not. The mainland city of Johor Bahru is a relatively poor city of only 500K people, and beyond that it's farmland until you get to the Malaysian captial, more than 4 hours away. So I wouldn't expect the two cities to have the same preferences for car ownership in any case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't need a car in Singapore. Very good public transport and affordable taxis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How are taxis affordable if cars are so expensive?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Presumably because they don't apply to taxis. Singapore definitely has a licensing system, don't ask me for details.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Taxis in NYC have medallions, that are significantly more than $100k, and that makes the scarcity of taxis just enough that they are in demand but rarely unused.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Taxis in NYC have medallions, that are significantly more than $100k, and that makes the scarcity of taxis just enough that they are in demand but rarely unused.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

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Click here to see the summarySINGAPORE, Oct 4 (Reuters) - To own a car in Singapore, a buyer must bid for a certificate that now costs $106,000, equivalent to four Toyota Camry Hybrids in the U.S., as a post-pandemic recovery has driven up the cost of the city-state's vehicle quota system to all-time highs.

Singapore has a 10-year "certificate of entitlement" (COE) system, introduced in 1990, to control the number of vehicles in the small country, which is home to 5.9 million people and can be driven across in less than an hour.

In 2020, when fewer people in Singapore were driving, the price of COEs dropped to about S$30,000; a post-COVID increase in economic activity has led to more car purchases while the total number of vehicles on the road is capped at about 950,000.

The skyrocketing price puts cars firmly out of reach of most middle-class Singaporeans, putting a dent in what sociologist Tan Ern Ser said was the "Singapore Dream" of upward social mobility - having cash, a condominium and a car.

Singaporeans have been battered by persistent inflation and a slowing economy, and some are selling the cars they bought when COE prices were low to make a profit.

Jason Guan, 40, an insurance agent and father of two, said he bought his first car, a Toyota Rush, for S$65,000 in 2008, including the price of the COE.


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