how naive of him to think companies didn't already scrape his facial data from anywhere he might have had a picture 10 years ago
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Yup. Last year some Harvard students put together a demo where they used Meta's smart glasses and commercial apps to scan people's faces, find their social media profiles, and summarize info about them, like where they live, work, their phone numbers, and names of their relatives in real time.
So basically Watch_Dogs profilers IRL
Your "facial data" isn't private information. You give it away every time you go outside.
every time you go outside.
You guys go outside? /j
But your likeness does belong to you. Try making money off of an AI movie featuring Taylor Swift.
Don't paparazzi make plenty of money off of selling unauthorized photos of celebrities? Celebrities can control some uses of their likeness, but not all of them.
True, though for now paparazzi photos generally are “here’s the celebrity in real life doing [x]” whereas AI is “celebrity never did this thing and we applied their image / voice to it like they did.” Really difficult for celebs to shut down tabloid or fan ai-generated garbage, but I think the bigger issue for them right now is film or music studios just using their likeness to keep the profits churning
You're talking about the American concept of having no privacy in public. Not all countries are like that.
Your face being outside isn't your "facial data". It has to at least have that image, sure, in good enough quality, easy enough, linked to any piece of your identity, e.g. name or security number. If you just walk around and people take photo of your face, they don't have your "facial data". That's the entire reason why reverse image search and similar services exist. It is NOT an easy problem technically speaking.
It's already done, if you have any photographs of yourself on the internet. No need to fight that battle, accept and push forward.
I suppose I'll accept it and just start pushing forward with setting fires. 🔥
And what if there's no photograph of myself online?
Be happy
Did they not give Twitter their facial data when they uploaded their avatar?
They do, but even if they didn't AI companies are going take them anyway. Bots make up 50% of internet traffic. AI companies have ignored robot.txt entries. Anything publicly available, even if it's behind a password, is accessible since companies like Reddit sell that information.
Bots make up 50% of internet traffic.
I've read a study that claimed ads were 50% of traffic by data volume.
Is anyone actually still using the internet, or is it all ad networks sending crap to bots?
This is my source : Forbes.
The source of the article is Imperva 2024 Bad Bot Report, but I cannot download the report. I do not know how they measured traffic. In this age of social media, I am going to guess it is by data volume and site visits.
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Yes I have.
With a model I fine tuned myself and ran locally on my own hardware.
Suck it
Just curious, do you know even as a rough estimation (maybe via the model card) how much energy was used to train the initial model and if so how do you believe it was done so in an ecologically justifiable way?
Just curious. Do you know how many children had a hand in making your electronics?
Just curious, do you know how many trees were MOLESTED to create that air you're breathing?
I know at least seven were. It would've been more but I got a splinter and that really turned me off.
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Straw-hat much or just learning about logistics and sourcing in our globalized supply chain?
Satirically pointing out that worrying about electricity usage for model creation is ridiculous.
It's already spent. The model exists. It's probably MORE moral to use it as much as possible to get some positive value out of it. Otherwise it was just wasted.
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FWIW the person I asked did reply, they don't care : https://lemmy.world/post/30563785/17397024
Hope it helps.
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Don’t know. Don’t really care honestly. I dont pay for hydro, and whatever energy expenditures were involved in training the model I fine tuned is more than offset by the fact that I don’t and never will drive.
Don’t know. Don’t really care honestly [...] offset by the fact that I don’t and never will drive.
That's some strange logic. Either you do know and you can estimate that the offset will indeed "balance it out" or you don't then you can't say one way or the other.
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Just curious, do you know how much energy went into powering every computer and office room for 3 years while the latest videogame/hollyowood movie/etc was being made used up?
Should we ban every single non-essential thing in the world or only the ones you don't enjoy?
And please hop-off Lemmy, do you know how much power the devs used to program this site!
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Feel free to explain the down votes.
If it wasn't clear the my point was that self hosting addresses mostly privacy for the user but that is only one dimension addressed. It does not necessarily address the ecological impact. I was honestly hoping this community to care more.
What's clear is that you don't realize how much energy AI actually uses up and you ate up propaganda that you are spreading right now. A querry that runs for 20s to generate an image on a card that uses up at most 350W/h during heavy gaming sessions isn't magically going to doom the world. Chill out.
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I've given up and assume that my friends and family have already handed over my contact info, pictures, messages, DNA, etc
Honestly giving up is reasonable. We need EVERYONE to respect privacy for this whole thing to work.
You could be the most privacy focused individual and your mom's facebook page would still have your graduation picture with name of the highschool you went and your home address in the back somewhere.
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ITT: People expecting the most basic of logic from a blue checkmark's brain.
I remember years ago someone in my class decided to make Russian look alike pictures of everyone in the class and post them as a gag on the doors. I forget what it was called, but several of my classmates were angry that the person had taken their pictures without consent and given them to some weird Russian picture algorithm.
At this point in time, I have no doubt that all kinds of pictures and information regarding me is in the hands of people and companies I don't care for. A lot of it is my own doing and some is out of my hands.
It is hard to avoid when you don't have any control over your own information because people share your pictures and your info without consulting you. All the time and without malice. It is what it is.
Pff it's easy
Cut contact with all friends and family, get plastic surgery, live as a hermit in the mountains
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wow that's evil
It's cleverly addressing a valid point. If your face is visible on the internet it can be used in an ai database without your consent. That's just where we're at.
yeah fair enough but every use of the studio Ghibli image generator is one too many
Gosh so many real problems being solved with computers! I always knew they would be useful one day.
I just saw an ad for a “training course” to “qualify” people to interact with AI as a profession.
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