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This was a Critical Mass event, which is why the bicyclists are taking up all of the street as a way to reclaim the streets and protest the lack of safety for riders under usual conditions. It's not legal, but protests are never useful if they're fully legal now, are they.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

For all of the unequivocally civic commenters on this thread, ask yourself this: would you be defending someone driving through a protest if the protesters weren't on bikes?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago

lots of people in this thread that don't understand how protests work.

[–] [email protected] 162 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (20 children)

This is how cyclists feel when they are surrounded by cars on busy roads because the cycling infrastructure is shit.

Except, cyclists can't kill people in cars with their bike.

So, lady, imagine our frustration.

Edit: spelling 🤦‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

As a Bicycle commuter... there's plenty of "Am I the Asshole?" that needs to go around here.

I understand the cyclists are treating this as a protest, but unless the road is closed, get the hell out of the oncoming lane. You're not doing anything here other than confirming the drivers bias that you're the problem.

As for the driver, just fucking STOP until they pass. Is the risk of you hitting someone worth the few minutes that pulling over out of the way costs you? The driver's pissing and moaning on the video is some self-entitled bull shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

And recording while driving...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Protesting the lack of safety for riders by being unsafe riders? I don't think the best way to convince the public that cyclists can be safely integrated into traffic is to purposefully create dangerous situations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There is exactly 2 persons creating dangerous situations in that video and none of them are on bikes.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Ah yes, the inevitable “protests should only happen when it’s convenient for everyone and 100% approved by the authorities” comment.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Funny how it's a problem when cyclists start acting like drivers

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Funny how no one would be on the side of a driver driving into oncoming traffic. They're not acting like drivers unless you want to lump them in with absolute moron dangerous drivers.

Hold up traffic by staying in the proper lane and following road rules like cars and I'll be on their side.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Car brains are incapable of realizing that they're the deadly threat.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Idiots in cars, idiots on bikes. Hell yeah I'm pro bikes but setting a wheel on incoming lane? Yeaah.. no thanks, I'm fine

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Dangerous to drivers"

Because you're going to give yourself an aneurysm over a minor inconvenience? You're in a giant suit of armor. You could hit every single one of those cyclists without sustaining even a scratch.

If the cyclists were actually dangerous to drivers, do you think the diver would be accelerating aggressively towards them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't like cars, but this is fucking bonkers. Trapping people in place isn't 'protesting', it's being a twat.

All the people claiming that this is a legitimate protest surely understand that the car driver was only 'counterprotesting', right?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

Only protest where no one is inconvenienced and you can easily be ignored, mkay?

What's fucking bonkers is car infrastructure. Highways trap me in place all the time when I want to talk a a walk or cycle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Trapping people in place isn’t ‘protesting’,

Have you ever seen any protests? How do you think they work lol

FFS we close our streets for less important things like construction, marathons, parades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh. Is that how protests work? I am a non-driver who supports initiatives like making cities car-free, increasing public transport, improving cyclist/pedestrian infrastructure. Yet, I am now blocking this community because it's clearly full of attention-seekers craving a power-trip.

This 'protest' makes me support the drivers, not the cyclists. I don't understand how this silly idea came about that making people hate you somehow builds support for a cause.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

this "idea" came from doing things and seeing what works. My personal observation is whatever you do there's people who feel it's too extreme and offensive, that's the nature of trying to change things.

IDK about community here, don't really participate, don't care who leaves or joins. Critical mass as an idea is much older than any "fuckcars" community.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Idk about the usa but here in europe its EXPLICITLY written into the drivers code that even if someone is driving illegaly if its in your power to stop an accident you have to. So if a person steps in front of you randomly and you have half a second to react thats usually not your fault BUT if you for example saw that there was a school bus dropping kids off and then you hit a child running across the road theres a large chance that theyre gonna charge you. Of course in europe you have to put like 30 hours into theory and then a lot of driving lessons to get a license while in the usa you basically get a drivers license instantly and nobody gives a fuck so thats why people dont know the rules...

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To add, in the Netherlands, known for it's stellar bike infrastructure it's exactly with actions like this that they reclaimed their cities from being purely car oriented.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where I live, critical mass is legal. Bikes can go on the street and we have a law that allows multiple vehicles that move as one to be treated like one vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Where is it legal to drive in the oncoming lane?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The organizers will inform the city that a critical mass protest is taking place, the city will inform the police and they will cordon off the route. If there are enough people talking part in the protest, the public order authorities will have no other choice - thus the name critical mass. The right to protest takes precedence over the right to drive this specific route.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Whenever I've been on a Critical Mass ride, we've always had designated "corkers", people whose job it was to block traffic with blockading/dancing/whatever while the others continued onward. Without people doing that, you run the risk of this sort of carbrained nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I obey the traffic laws. I'm apparently one of the only people in my town that has read them. I like riding my bike. I like my town. People Hollar at me from their cars. I get called "fag" every second day. For taking a bike ride.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Everyone except me is crazy."

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (18 children)

Imo it looks remarkably safe as long as we ignore the person in the car driving into oncoming traffic.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

With her smartphone out, recording.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

No but see youre responsible for all the actions of people who want to kill you.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 days ago (39 children)

She definitely should have either stopped or gone a different route, but it is incredibly dangerous to cycle head onto incoming motor traffic. Not really a great look for the cyclists.

Better off staying in the correct lane but hogging it so vehicles had no choice but to stay behind.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Confused Portlander here. Why are these bikers fully clothed?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (22 children)

How about they take this up with the officials who can actually make a difference in bike safety and quit making life worse for people who just want to get home?

Go bike around City Hall if you want to "raise awareness." All you're doing here is pissing people off.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I agree that more bike lanes are needed and also cyclists need to be treated with the respect any life demands.

But flipping off a driver or generally blaming people who drive is fighting the wrong fight. I drive a car, I also cycle, being in a car doesn't make me anti-bike.

Fight the government - flip off the government - that is refusing to put in safe infrastructure for the bikes (with protests like this, of course. But don't flip off the driver, at best it does nothing, at worst it widens the gap between both groups and makes it easier to dehumanize and villianize the cyclists).

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