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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Microsoft has tried and failed a few times with mobile devices. I doubt this will be any different.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

This is their pattern. Way Kate to the market with some half baked ideas that has all these aspirations but never does everything right. Plus required Microsoft account, Cortana/copilot/gimmick of the week forced in there.

  • windows phone
  • surface
  • hololens (didn't even make it to market)
  • mixed reality

... Many more

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Xbox anything is DOA at this point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hardware, yes. Software? idk. Game Pass is pretty awesome value atm

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Game pass is obviously the first stage of classic enshittification. They're trying to be good to users to get them into the ecosystem. Abuse comes later. Don't let them change games into a subscription service where you have to keep paying forever. Think longer term.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

sure, I totally agree. but it's not "DOA" as per the patent comment I replied to

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can’t say I’m excited at all about somebody else’s curated rotating library I pay a premium for. I could easily just go to the library and check out the game there for free.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Microsoft sucks and I don't want their shit. They'll probably cram AI into it or otherwise shit it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Do you want copilot to clear this level for you? Only $4.99

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think i speak for most gamers when i say i have a steam game library, but would not touch the Microsoft PC game store with a 10ft pole.

I am an xbox user, i have a vast digital(and physical) xbox library that can almost drink alcohol. This is the library and store i want on an Xbox handheld. Xbox not pursuing compatibility with that library is what will kill the brand IMO.

Xbox Play Anywhere was a nice program that gave people some double purchases on the MS game store for no extra cost... But it was too sparse to make the barebones MS game store seem worthwhile compared to steam.

If people bother to buy this generic PC handheld with an Xbox sticker on it, they might be slightly more inclined to buy games on the MS same store, but im certain the majority will just use Steam and Gamepass.

They can already do this on all other PC handhelds though, so why would anyone buy this one?!?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From the presentations on Sunday it seems like they are heavily reinvesting in the idea of play anywhere. I think all the games they announced had it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Im very glad they are... But this effort just negates their last push for backwards compatibility on the xbox console.

I am sure they see the value in merging that library into their PC library. Tbh they will probably choose the lazy route and stick to streaming xbox-only games to PC because it requires no extra planning. Even the streaming process is a convoluted mess though with only certain games/publishers giving their games permission to stream. I am never allowed to stream every game i want for arbitrary reasons, and i dont like that when i have already bought the game.

Xbox wants to move away from local processing anyhow because it funnels users into their beloved subscription model.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

They might have the dustbin of Microsoft innovations in their sights actually.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Didn't they just announce last week that the entire project is on pause?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean they just announced the Xbox Ally today at a presentation, so it certainly doesn't seem like it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Made by ASUS. It's just an xbox branded ASUS Ally, a product that already existed (maybe updated to 2025)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Microsoft designed handheld is on pause (and probably cancelled because AMD is not going to provide Series S level performance anytime soon and ARM+Nvidia is no go after whole W11 ARM fiasco). They’re pivoting to what Valve is doing with specialised gaming OS for OEMs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't expect much from it, and it's not surprising since Microsoft won't even put the effort into making their own handheld rather than just partnering and making a modified existing one.

Plus, I use Linux because I don't want to use Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't this a bit like saying that NASA has Mars in its sights, not New Jersey? Sure there are more people in NJ, but arriving in NJ isn't really an accomplishment. Likewise, being able to beat a piece of hardware that was out of date when it was first announced over a year ago (switch 2) obviously isn't their goal. Additionally, Valve already has superior hardware and distribution, so they are clearly the competitor to beat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Valve, is it time to launch the HL3 bomb?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

No thanks lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I didn't even entertain the idea that someone might think this is in the same market as Nintendo.

At least since the Wii Nintendo has been in a category of its own. Either you want a Nintendo console or you don't. But having an Xbox or PlayStation or PC doesn't factor into the decision beyond availability of funds.

(of course fanboys will always exist, but they are a small minority)