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It seems like it should be sort of a priority for the fediverse to create a high quality alternative to Facebook, which is one of the largest platforms out there, and probably what a lot of people think of when they think of "social media", and yet, the marketing and overall adoption of Friendica is simply abysmal, to put it bluntly.

Issue 1: The super bland and basic on-boarding.

When you visit the main website for friendica, you are greeted with "friendica: a decentralized social media network" followed by a "try it" button. Then when you scroll down, there is basic black text on a white background, explaining things like decentralization, privacy, and interoperability. Do you think that this sort of intro is really going to draw people in? It gives off the vibe of "it is your birthday", a la dwight from the office.

If you click on the "try it" button, you get scrolled to a part of the site that says "Try Friendica" with two sentences that basically say "this website is really complex overall, but don't worry, you can click another button below to browse a list of servers (yes, servers, we are not explaining what that means, just click the button)". The actual server list has a single filter option, language, and if you filter by english, the top server right now is a furry server. If any normie has somehow managed to get this far, they are sure to nope the fuck out at this point.

Assuming you do manage to get past this point, the actual sign up form has way too much information for the average person. The first field is "openID". I'm sure that's useful for those who use it, but why is it the first field? There is also a check box to be added to the public directory, which is checked no by default. What does this mean? It is certainly not explained here. You're not asking for a password? Why not? Oh, because you are making a random password for me I have to copy and paste and then save or change. That's not inconvenient at all. Yet another step of friction for me.

Compare this on-boarding process to other sites on the fediverse. Mastodon has a catchy and succinct explainer on why their site is worth joining followed by a "join mastodon.social" button, or a "pick another server" button. If you go to the servers button, you get several different filtering options, region, interest, sign up process, legal structure, and very notably, a disclaimer that all of these servers have signed a safety agreement. Upon signing up, you first agree to some terms of service, which is very reassuring for those looking for a safe and welcoming platform, followed by entering username, e-mail, password and date of birth. All very straight forward. Lemmy is similarly streamlined and polished, and you don't even need an e-mail to sign up for some servers. Super easy and convenient.

Issue 2: Terrible mascot.

Mastodon has their mastodon carrying a knapsack. Lemmy has the lemming face. Pixelfed has a cute red panda. Friendica has.....some kind of demented looking rabbit with bugged out eyes? Seriously, what the hell is this?

Issue 3: Super basic blog style website.

As alluded to in issue 1, the website is super basic, with almost no polish to it. It looks like someone made it on wordpress. The home page does have some clip art type images and background stuff thrown in here and there, but outside of that, it looks very unprofessional. Again, comparing to sites like Mastodon and Lemmy, which have much more polished and professional looking web design. The clearly put time into making sure new users get a good impression. Friendica puts almost no effort whatsoever.

So these three issues, just from an outsiders glance, are in my opinion some of the biggest things holding back what could potentially be one of the most used sites on the fediverse, at least on the marketing side of things. I do not know how the overall team behind the site is structured, but suffice to say, it needs work.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I tried to love it. It's one of the most feature rich fediverse platforms out there. It has groups built in out of the box, it talks to Diaspora as well as Activitypub... But it's just... not nice to use.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Add to that the butt ugly blue and yellow icon from the 90's.

Diaspora had it going on I found. It's a shame it didn't catch on. And that they didn't adapt it to ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was made back when Facebook had that old style UI, in 2010. And then interest in Facebook's format kinda died, and so did the interest in the project.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's crazy is that all I really want out of a social platform is 2010's Facebook. That was perfect. I was keeping in touch with friends and staying updated with their lives. I want that back so bad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

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yeah uh, the 2010 FB wasn't great either...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The poking was annoying, but somewhat endearing. I feel like myspace was where it was at to be honest. There is a site called spacehey that replicates it, would be nice for something like that to be on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

For sure. It basically just comes across as a Temu version of the Facebook logo.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Don't want to shout too much about this yet as it's still super early but I am actually working on a new fediverse app that I plan should be covering the same sort of use cases as Lemmy, Mastodon and Friendica, all in one application. With a big focus on user friendliness, easy onboarding and such.

It's still super early but drop me a private message if you're interested in helping or just hearing more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you're not creating it to push propaganda I'd be willing to donate to a project like that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Link for anyone interested:

https://friendi.ca/

Based on the post, I was expected the website to look far worse.

  1. I agree the onboarding isn't great and could use an overhaul.
  2. Had to specifically look search for the mascot (didn't see it on the website) and yeah, that's rough (starting from scratch may not be a bad idea). Flaxy O'Hare
  3. The screenshot also showed a pretty basic UX that could look far better.

I guess in conclusion, I think all your points are valid.

Edit: numbered items and added missing link.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The website is not bad as far as websites for open source software go, but for a social media site, it is honestly one of the worst I have ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Guys, it's time to accept the Fediverse apps and websites are not meant to and never will be a replacement for mainstream social media. They are meant for a hobbyist and activist audience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think that's true. That's just defeatism talking.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The SteamDeck uses Linux. It took 20 years, but it's still something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Longer than that. The GNU project started in 1983. Linux first release is from 1991.

And they would be nowhere if it was not for IBM, Sun and Google pouring billions into it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That is pretty depressing then. I always viewed the fediverse and activitypub as a transformative technology that could reshape the state of corporate control of the internet. What you are saying that that will never happen and we should just basically give up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The SteamDeck uses Linux. It took 20 years, but it's still something.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Let's stop with the slacktivism and start putting money on the table, and professionals of all specialties will show up and change this reality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I honestly consider that to be a feature, not a bug.

Reddit, Facebook, Twitter etc. all started out great, then grew so large that they lost all their magic.

Why should we try to speed run that process with the Fediverse?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Was the smallness the magic? For me, I did not notice or care about the size. It was about personal connections first and foremost. The feed was full of your friends posts, and nothing else. Then they all started going all in algorithms, trending/engagement, advertisements, bots, and AI, and it all went to shit. In other words, corporate profit seeking is what ruined it, not the size.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Sounds like they're lacking UI, UX people on their team, along with someone good at marketing, and money overall.

I could help with marketing and fundraising, but at the very least the UI and branding would have to be fixed first. I guess if the team was contacted if they'd like a person to fix up the onboarding process and an artist to help make a new mascot I know one who would do it. Actually what would be better would be 2 mascots, to go with the whole "making friends" motif.

Sign up definitely needs to be by interest after going through language, since you're right that the first option would totally nope most people out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I tend to agree. I think that even though it might seem a little harsh, it's also pretty important to be brutally honest and realistic about things like this. Maybe consider sending this feedback to the developers (in a constructive way, of course).

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I wanted to add that I think the name 'Friendica' is a really good one, and I like what they have going on. I have heard good things about it in general, despite the dated design/style elements.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Totally, the name and overall functionality is decent, and I actually do enjoy using it once I figure out how. It just needs a bit of a face lift and overall marketing rework.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The mascot argument seem like cherry picking. I completly agree about the two other points

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's part of an overall image. I know it seems minor, but when the sign up is janky, the website is janky, then you somehow get a janky error with some bizarre looking rabbit, it just adds to the pile of things that might make people think it's amateur hour.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I couldn't find the rabbit on Friendica's website, but I did find it here: https://joinfediverse.wiki/Fediverse_mascots#Flaxy_O%E2%80%99Hare

You're right, it's awful lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

That's actually pretty funny. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I don't know. I think it's actually kind of cute. I like it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's open source. Feel free to contribute.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am not a programmer or web developer. This post is meant as a contribution to those that are capable. If there is some user feedback forum more appropriate, I would be happy to contribute there. I apologize for not being able to contribute more. I will work on my programming skills and see if I am able to help in a more concrete way.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Giving feedback is the first step to contributing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

That second one is actually pretty good. The first one needs to die in a fire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I stopped using facebook years before fediverse even existed.

I think the facebook public is not the same as the fediverse public.

The most developed fediverse apps are the ones that clone sites that the geeks used to roam, like twitter and reddit.

When people develope something like this, usually is because themselves want to use it. I would assume that, like me, not many people want to use a facebook-like site.

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