Apparently Israel has the right to defend itself. I wonder if Iran has that same right as well?
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2025
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It's mind boggling. Israel launches preemptive attack, "Israel has a right blah blah blah."
"Preemptive strike" too, lol.
self defense of you don't believe in causality
Seems like the rhetoric is that since Iran was building a nuclear weapon, it was justified as a defense. Now, if Iran had attacked Israel when it was developing its nuclear weapons, I wonder if that would have qualified as defense as well?
The Iranian mullah regime has been announcing its desire to destroy Israel daily and loudly for decades. โDeath to Israelโ is a signature slogan.
Israel has never announced any intention to destroy Iran and expel the people.
Thatโs kind of a fundamental difference.
Iran has been attacking Israel through its proxies for decades. Do you live under a rock?
Yeah, okay, thanks buddy. Israelis don't seem so fond of their neighbours either.
The Iranian mullah regime has been announcing its desire to destroy Israel daily and loudly for decades.
Has it though? Daily? And surely you're not dumb enough to think the rhetoric used is anything but political theater? For Iranian leaders, saying death to Israel makes sense, since their main audience is their population and they need an enemy. For Israel, it's rational to stay quiet, since they want to associate with Western democracies.
Israel has never announced any intention to destroy Iran and expel the people.
They didn't announce much about Gaza in advance (or their expansion on the West Bank). And look what happened.
Iran has been attacking Israel through its proxies for decades. Do you live under a rock?
Whoo boy. Let's not start talking about the history of this conflict. Spoiler: no one will come out as a hero.
Now, if Iran had attacked Israel when it was developing its nuclear weapons, I wonder if that would have qualified as defense as well?
Iran was closer to the West than Israel at the time, and Israel's nuclear program was strongly opposed by everyone except France and the UK, so probably.
LOL of course not. They're brown.
USA, 2025.
Kinda shit meme that spurs on a misinformed perspective...
Tensions and clashes in the region are primarily sectarian differences (cultural, religious) rather than skin colour - and besides, most ethnic groups in the region (Arabs, Jews, Persians and others) are rather diverse when it comes to melanin.
the difference is that the "western whiter" state can do all the terror apartheid and genocide it wants, and the world and main stream media celebrate them.
but other non white states are treated like terrorist for responding to attacks
"whiteness" is not just defined by skin color in the close sense, but also a state of mind and political affiliation.
What you say about the ethnicites is absolutely correct, however Israel is perceived as an extension of the "white" west vs. the "brown" inferior people.
Whoโs that little tree flag?
Lebanon I'm pretty sure
Flags from Left to Right:
Israel
Iran
Palestine
Yemen
Syria (depending on device it might still show the flag from Assad times, the new flag is green white black with three red stars on white)
Lebanon
Didn't know about Syria's flag change
all flags need a little symbol.
death to boring tricolour flags
Iranians can sometimes be surprisingly pale while isrealis can sometimes be surprisingly dark, there are of course the mizrahi jews but the beta isreal population are straight up black. I don't think it's as much a race thing as it is a western aligned vs non-western aligned thing. Other western aligned countries like Taiwan also get overwhelmingly positive media coverage despite not being white. The fact that Iranians are Muslims also contribute a lot to their bad media image. Lots of isrealis could fit in with Iranians without any problem looks wise but absolutely not culture wise.
Imma be honest. Both sides are guilty in this. I just hate that we need to be roped into their shitty religious squabbles. I feel very sorry for the people, but the pragmatic in me tells me we should just let the region sort out their issues on their own and whatever happens happens. No matter which side you take youโre supporting religious extremism and genocide.
The correct answer to genocide is not "Let them genocide it out"
How? Tell me how exactly that looks in practice? Do we bomb both of them to stop them? Do we ask them nicely? They are sovereign nations, this is in their power to do and I do not think we have a right to stop them.
Currently the USA is literally funding Israel, so you know, we could stop that.
Is that not what I said myself?
If you could point out in your responses where you said that Iโd appreciate it
I feel very sorry for the people, but the pragmatic in me tells me we should just let the region sort out their issues on their own and whatever happens happens.
I forget the average person has terrible reading comprehension and needs things explicitly spelled out.