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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I don’t know what the big fuss is about, the whole project has been a roaring success, and looks to continue delivering for another decade.

…you didn’t think the purpose was to improve public transport did you? 🎩💰

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

“HS2 has made Britain a laughing stock in terms of its ability to deliver big infrastructure projects, and it has to end. This will set out the way we will do that,” a source told the PA news agency.

Ten years back:

https://www.raconteur.net/project-management-2015/britains-most-successful-megaprojects

Infrastructure is not “the new rock ‘n’ roll”. However, if it were, then with a seminal project management playlist ranging from Heathrow Terminal 5, via the Olympic Park and Crossrail, on perhaps towards Thames Tideway Tunnel and the HS2 high-speed rail link, the best of British is fast becoming a greatest hits for the 21st century.

Recent project history has placed Britain in a unique position of global influence, according to Professor Andrew Davies at University College London’s Bartlett Faculty of the Built Environment. “Over the past decade or so, the UK has transformed the way megaprojects are delivered, moving away from a world of fixed-price contracts, risk transfer, lowest-cost tendering and adversarial relationships,” he says.

For Professor Davies, who specialises in the management of projects, the market has witnessed the emergence of a “flexible megaproject delivery model”, initiated by Heathrow’s T5.

“The UK has created an institutional environment for delivering megaprojects in a radically new way. The United States and many European countries are watching and learning,” he says.

I'm not entirely convinced that either the "everyone is sitting in awe at the feet of the master" or the "we're a global laughingstock" statements about HS2 are quite true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Definitely not, lol. Nearby countries with fast rail - France, Spain, Germany - would perhaps give a slight bemused smile in the direction of HS2. Those are big countries where high-speed rail makes actual sense - as just one example, from the German town of Karlsruhe right by the border with France, you can take a TGV to Lyon, about 350 miles away. It takes around 5 hours and will probably cost you less than €100.

However all those countries are all too familiar with their own governments mismanaging public works. So they wouldn't be shocked at the huge sacks of cash that are being tipped into great holes in the ground, and any laughter would be at the idea that this ridiculously unnecessary governmental vanity project is even being built at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

I swear, the amount of government swindles over the last decade are at a level we haven't seen since the 18th century. So many billions lost to dodgy covid kit, nhs contracts, school and prison services...