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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.nz/post/24463169

A woman severely hurt in a bicycle crash with a Waymo robotaxi is suing the company, claiming one of its vehicles pulled over in a no-stopping zone next to a bike lane, and a passenger opened a door into her path — despite the car’s “Safe Exit” system touted by the Mountain View company as protection for passing cyclists.

Waymo in online marketing materials says its robotaxi Safe Exit sensor and warning systems provide departing passengers with “explicit audio and visual alerts that inform them when a cyclist or other road user is approaching as they exit the car.” The company cites San Francisco’s transit agency in noting that collisions between cyclists and vehicle doors — incidents known as “doorings” — are the city’s second most common collisions causing death or injury.

The passengers from the robotaxi whose door hit Hanke said at the scene that no alert had been given before one of them opened the door into the bike lane, Hanke said. The lawsuit alleged “a malfunction, failure to engage, or design flaw” in the alert system.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The bike infrastructure where the crash occured is even worse:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fa-bicyclist-is-suing-waymo-in-federal-court-after-its-v0-ggrvl22j2i5f1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1206%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ded7bbaad39e733d68c3ae2dfb3ce284068a74d3b

The fault shouldn't be on waymo.
Almost no car have feature that alert the user that there is incoming traffic. Why should they be blamed if allegedly their feature didn't worked ?
Car user must be aware when opening the door, there would had been the same problem with a taxi.

The main problem here is the shitty bike infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the car stopped illegally that’s absolutely on Waymo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Also a waymo was within 50 feet of the injury. That should be enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You need to be cautious because it's the victim claim and they want money.
If the redditor pinpointed the correct location:
https://www.google.fr/maps/place/YOTEL+San+Francisco/@37.7801757,-122.4121171,3a,15y,31.47h,94.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxT5zDp6EdMhuMMaSj24REQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.6841735984350095%26panoid%3DxT5zDp6EdMhuMMaSj24REQ%26yaw%3D31.472150637642635!7i16384!8i8192!4m9!3m8!1s0x80858084c80122a3:0x5346081f2c1518cc!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d37.7803603!4d-122.4120372!16s%2Fg%2F11dxc1t6wq?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

"PASSENGER LOADING ONLY" indicate to me that you can drop off someone.
So the claim that the car stopped illegally looks wrong.

I'm defending waymo for the sole reason that they are more respectful to other road user than 95% of the other drivers. Humans taxis are often way too dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yep— I’m not saying they did or didn't, but if they did…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy shit now they're starting to work together

At the same time, a second Waymo in the road to Hanke’s left began veering to the right toward the curb and into the bike lane, narrowing Hanke’s possible escape path

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Emergent pack behaviour, fascinating!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Theyve had this for a while.