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[–] [email protected] 205 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE," posts the man who just led us into war.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago

Ikr, it's like puncing someone in the face and then telling that person now is the moment to stop fighting lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I read a post that said he couldn’t go to war without a vote from congress, was that wrong?

Edit: I’m not a US citizen so I’m not sure

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The constitution gives Congress the exclusive power to formally declare war.

That said, Congress hasn't declared war since 1942, yet we've obviously taken part in many wars since then.

Sadly there just hasn't been enough Congressional support to retaliate against a president for jumping to military action without authorization. And it doesn't help that the average American doesn't know that the president is not allowed to just deploy troops at will (in most cases, Iran included).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

If the president can do it without consequences, then he is allowed. Turns out words on paper mean nothing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Legally speaking that's correct. There was nothing legal about this, though.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (13 children)

This lukewarm take in every comment section is so old and boring. Maybe try blaming the fascists for all the, you know, fascism.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

It’s fair game to blame citizens of fascist countries for the politics they helped to bring forward. And the "democrats and republicans are the same"-crowd that is very vocal on Lemmy definitely helped to enable this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It's a form of inaction and doomerism. "I voted the right way. My hands are clean.. as we all march towards authoritarianism while nobody bothers to resist." I don't care how you voted. Get on the resistance train now or I guess see you in CECOT.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

we're all suffering because of people who protest nonvoted right now. So fuck them. They're just as much to blame as the maga voters. They fucked everything up. Its fucked. Its all fucked. So yeah, were going to be pissed about it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My point is, regardless of fault, all this backwards-looking, performative infighting on the left accomplishes nothing at this particular moment. We've, uh, got bigger fish to fry. So let's focus our animus (and resistance efforts) on the fucking fascists whose boots are on our necks, shall we?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. It’s more than performative infighting, it’s some self-congratulating back patting nonsense while ALSO accomplishing nothing and making a cohesive resistance much less realistic. It’s so fucking self-serving and pointless. A self ego stroke.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Sounds like you don't like me reminding protest-non-voters what they voted for.

Got another 3.5 years of this. Longer if you count the time it takes to fix things.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Nah let's not blame those truly responsible, lets just keep pointing fingers at each other exactly as the rich want it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're all patting themselves on the back right now claiming Harris would have done the same thing.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (6 children)

without congressional approval

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Congress decided quite a while ago that presidents are allowed to have a little war, as a treat, and only seek approval for it later. It's been this way at least since the '90s and likely before.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Nice, another one of those American values that we are all supposed to admire

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Iran is going to close the Straight of Hormuz.

There goes the worlds economy.

25% of the worlds oil runs through there.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

And then the Trump will invade Iran to open it citing it must remain open.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Shhhh! That's supposed to be a secret plan!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They may try.

There would be more than just the US and Israel bombing them if that happened, you just don't fuck with international trade.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Well, yeah. It wouldn't be WW3 without more dance partners.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

*Bombs a peaceful country. “Now is the time for peace.” 🫲🍊🫱

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago

That'll teach the Democrats for not embracing socialism.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kamala did warn you Americans.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Given how Germany, France, the UK etc have all lined up behind Israel, towing the line that Israel has a right to defend itself, and even going as far as saying that Israel is doing our dirty work for us, I have very serious doubts that Harris would not have followed Israel down the warpath.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now, when a terrorist attack occurs, he's fully justified in declaring martial law.

It's as good as over, folks. Checkmate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

he doesn't even need that. he already does whatever he wants legal or not

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Netanyahu must have some really good kompromat on trump thru Epstein.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Closeted men of war preaching about peace. Closeted gays fighting against gay rights. Judgemental/greedy/racist religious people putting themselves on a pedestal about how you should "take care of thy neighbor".

It's always the ones who preach the most, the same ones doing the exact opposite of what they preach. Always the ones bitching about the bad in the world actively hard at work making the world a shittier place.

Seriously, if Trump says the sky is blue I'll immediately look up just to check if it hasn't turned red/green/pink/whatever.

Be always wary of the ones telling you how to live, and watch out for their actions closely. There's no hate like the 'love' of these hypocrites.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago

Officially we'll only be able to call that afterwards, during the cold war ww3 also almost begun. We should still try stop and prevent it, no matter how difficult it to argue it hasn't begun yet.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well at least Genocide Joe didn't become the president.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Well what is genocide Joe saying about the war? What about Harris? Chuck Schumer? Hakeem Jeffries? They're saying exactly nothing because they're inside AIPAC's pockets? Thought so.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

I can't even with this shit

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