I'm personally not on lemmy.ml but they literally advertise what their ideology is. If I go to a meeting of socialists in my community, I am expected to be in agreement with, or at least tolerant of, socialist viewpoints. If you're entering lemmy.ml you're expected to tolerate ML viewpoints, obviously.
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Yes but being federated with them means they can have their conversation in your space or overrun it, hence why op is saying it would be better to defederate
That's why instances, communities, and users can be blocked and banned. If 'their conversation' is not allowed in 'your space' then do the thing and move on.
My dude that is literally what this thread is about
'Do the thing' is using the tools a user has at their disposal to block other users. Communities can block and ban users too.
Defederation over moderation is not the thing I am suggesting. Especially not as part of a multiyear campaign perpetuating a bad-faith feedback loop.
They do not, Hex and Grad, yes. This is the current homepage of lemmy.ml, nothing indicates them being a Tankie Instance supporting Authoritarian regimes and their misinformation:
The ML stands for Marxist-Leninist. I recall it being clarified better when I last visited several years ago. "What is Lemmy.ml?" is a link that expands on the instance as "niche" rather than mainstream.
ML stands for Mali, there's no TLD for Marxism lol
And there's no domain for Team Fortress 2, but lots of people use .tf for TF2 focused websites.
And you're absolutely free to use it that way if the registry that handles is OK with it, but you just can't expect people to instantly realize that your .tf site is a Team Fortress related site based on just the TLD, because the .tf doesn't officially have anything to do with TF2, that was my point.
It's more popular for team fortress 2 than for the country its from. I don't even remember what country its from without looking it up. If I recall its a nation in southern Africa?
Either way, its more used for the funny hat game than the nation itself.
Lol. I think there is one for Republican and Democrat though. Which is funny. Or maybe it's like conservative or something. I don't know. There are so many TLDs now, it's crazy.
No, it's not a Mali instance. They're using it for something else. You may also notice .io domains are not always based in the Indian Ocean, nor .ly for Libya, .tv for Tumalu, etc.
That's the official purpose of 2 letter TLDs, like it or not. Some countries have opted to sell them to everyone, but .ml definitely means Mali, not Marxism-Leninism.
Since Mali lets anyone register domains with their TLD, you're free to use it however you want, but you can't expect everyone to know you're using it because it also stands for Marxism-Leninism. It might also be a Machine Learning instance!
They do mention their politics in some places but it's definitely not outright obvious from their usage of the Mali TLD.
That's not "literally advertising", that's an Easter egg, a very subtle hint or maybe even "coded language"
In any case, it requires the person encountering it to already have a concept of it and background knowledge to some degree.
This isn't the 90's/early 2000s anymore where there were only a few TLDs to go around, back then encountering .ml would have lead to a line of questioning like you say.
But not today, today the average user doesn't question the TLD anymore (as long as it's not one frequently associated with "scams" like .xyz) because there's just so many of them ranging from .io to .AI to .shop and .network
As I said earlier, it was advertised. I didn't make it up, it just isn't written there anymore.
Ugh ml users are the worst
I honestly don't know what the big fuss is about. I became member of Lemmy.ml a couple of years ago when it was basically the only existing instance if I remember correctly. I've never seen any drama apart from posts like this that claim the admins suck or the users suck. Maybe those claims are even valid, but do they even affect the average user at all. I've considered changing instances even, but it seems rather a lot of effort for a lot of hot air to me.
I strongly suspect this is conservative persecution complex. Sometimes I wish these types of users would go back to Reddit, but Reddit is such a hellscape now I wouldnβt even wish that on condescending .world users. Rather them stay here and bolster lemmy numbers, even with their shit takes included.
Yeah I simply do not understand how you can be an ML user and have somehow missed the blatant abuse of moderation powers surrounding users like Cowbee.
You either just don't pay attention or you aren't on Lemmy much.
True, I don't pay much attention to the mod log for example, I did not even know it was a thing. I regularly browse my communities and /r/all or whatever the main feet is called. I am here for content that interest me, no matter on what instance it is hosted. I thought that was the whole point of federation.
You're right, and I don't blame you for being a passive user.
Here, you can try it yourself β pay attention to users like Yogthos or Cowbee. 9 times out of 10 you end with threads of them monologuing to themselves against deleted comments.
Go look at the modlog.
You might be a member of .ml but are you active on .ml communities?
Iβve been banned for asking if someone would genuinely prefer living in North Korea over the hellhole that is London or New York.
Iβve been banned for linking to the Wikipedia page for βactually existing socialismβ because the page for it wasnβt flattering.
More recently Iβve found blocking all of .ml to improve my experience.
(Or alternately look at the voting on this comment lmao)
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Why is this on shitpost? Dude's got a mega thread with references and receipts.
those tankies would be very upset if they could read.
Lmao tankies are notorious for their reading lists lol. Here e.g. is an introductory one https://lemmy.ml/post/22417306
That's just asking for a treasure trove of links to theory
Nah .world would suck all by itself they have their own brand of censorship
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Time to change your diaper, OP.
I may not like the .ml political stance, but there are definitely people on there that may have non-political things worth listening to, which is why I haven't bothered blocking them. They may have some good opinions on open source software and such. I just avoid their news community because I know I will disagree with them and their stance.
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