this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2025
905 points (100.0% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

62619 readers
83 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):

🏴‍☠️ Other communities

FUCK ADOBE!

Torrenting/P2P:

Gaming:


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

I'd rather download some bicycles, but yes.

I wished, we could pirate food.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pff. You really think food grows on trees?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I downloaded a car. I love my Tisla Model C

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I am 100% down for sailing the high seas. But let's not sugarcoat it, this analogy is always been kind of crap.

Somebody went to your mailbox took out your paycheck, made a copy of it, put the original back in your box, went to the bank and cashed it.

Theft still took place. You're probably still getting paid. Maybe it got taken up by insurance and everyone's premium goes up a tiny fraction, maybe it got taken up by the bank or by your business.

It's still an incomplete analogy but it's a little bit closer.

That's not to say that the vast majority of piracy isn't people who wouldn't pay anyway. And back in the day, you certainly got more visibility in your games from people who were pirating.

But now that advertising is on its toes and steam exists, I won't think they're getting any serious benefit from piracy and I don't think that they're not losing At least modest numbers of sales.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (21 children)

This is a horseshit analogy.

Stealing money from your account is theft, it's not still there afterwards.

The concept I think you might've been looking for is opportunity cost in that pirating deprives an artist of potential sales. Which is a fair point, but it is still not the same as stealing since it does not deprive the artists of their original copy.

It's also all done in the context of a system that is not run by artists and does not primarily benefit artists, but is instead run by and benefits middlemen.

load more comments (21 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Now make the exact same meme but substitute "AI training" for "piracy" and watch the downvotes flow in.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well yeah, because my objections to AI aren't based on copyright law.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›