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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gemini never gets installed automatically on GrapheneOS. Yet another reason to switch if you can

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't that a pixel only OS?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, because pixels are currently the only android phones with hardware security that third party operating systems can take full advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

Are they still being made? I'd like to give it a try but Googles putting the pedal on enshitiffication

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately yes, there are technical reasons I don't fully understand. I think has to do with how it's locked down, and that it can be relocked after graphine is installed.

Graphine takes security seriously, so leaving the boot loader unlocked is not acceptable to them.

Although, that may change with google removing pixel specific code from the android source.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Its because of the hardware. Pixel phones have a chip dedicated exclusively to security, therefore why GrapheneOS is buildt arround those phones

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny how I turned off any data sharing for google years ago but the inclusion of gemini somehow voids my previous decision.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you download this, or was it an automatic update?

Some people have said it was an automatic update, and it then changed their settings

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Im not sure when the update came out but I've had two forced updates in the past 3-4 months for my Pixel 6. Im assuming thats when it changed. I am very meticulous about checking settings after updates but It looks like this was only online settings for your google account, not local to the phone, which is probably how I missed it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Direct Link to settings: https://myactivity.google.com/product/gemini

Their dumb redirect link didn't work for me, probably because of adblock.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Not available for my account type"

Since I use workspace, I have to go to Admin Console -> Generative AI -> Gemini app -> Service status -> OFF for everyone

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Went to turn it off.

Apparently I already did. Marvelous.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

The 'how' is to disable/remove the Gemini app, no reason to have that junk on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you own a Fairphone (3-5), Pixel (4, 5, 7 or 8) Nothing phone (1) or OnePlus (7 or 8), it's super easy to install /e/OS using this online installer. Most android apps work well out of the box, but all Google stuff has been stripped away and replaced with MicroG where necessary.

I'm never returning to Google anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My previous Motorola also has an e/OS/ spin. But sadly my current one does not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you lose pixel specific features?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

the launcher might become a very similar but stripped down version.

if you liked to have more features, try the lawnchair launcher from f-droid. its a fork with readded features. you need to have the izzydroid repo activated to find it

https://apt.izzysoft.de/packages/app.lawnchair

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

As long as it's based on software rather than hardware I think it's safe to assume it will be lost.

You can reinstall some things (such as the default camera app) from apks you find online, and apps such as Google Maps can be downloaded from the app store (which contains all apps from the play store). But by default it strips away everything that is installed on the phone by default and replaces it with a degoogled ecosystem, and I don't think it differentiates between different devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

i use a oneplus 8t so I'm gonna save this comment. thank you very much. ive manually blocked most google services but I'd like to try a dedicated OS soon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Any Google app that would have Gemini baked in has long since been disabled on my phone. I'm presuming it's bullshit isn't going to be able to access my Fossify Messages or Dialer or Gallery or every other app I've replaced and disabled, especially since I've also disabled the Assistant and Google Apps.

(If I'm wrong please correct me.)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've not seen this one. How does it manage to remove things without root?

Edit:nvm, answered my own question in the documentation. Uses shizuku which relies on adb

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm okay if it has access to everything, makes it easier to find the porn I was looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I don't like to be reminded of the porn I was looking for. Google showing me ads based on my porn habits is what sent me down the privacy and security path I've been on since.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jokes on them. Google workspace accounts are forgotten bastard children and this hasn't been and might not get activated on those accounts anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Admin Console -> Generative AI -> Gemini app -> Service status -> OFF for everyone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's a system app? I was able to uninstall it directly on my Pixel 8. Unless it's only a system app above that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I updated my phone last week ad now I cant uninstall samsung pass whatever the fuck that is. God I am so sick of tis game of cat and mouse with modern tech.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was able to send WhatsApp with Assistant since the beginning. What is the deal if Gemini foes it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"It'S aI" 🤡 -Googol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

removes gemini with adb