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[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, took them so long to get quote posts. A welcome addition imo (I know there's a lot of controversy around implementing it, but for me, I think I prefer it).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

The plan is to fully implement this by Mastodon 4.5 later in the year.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

@mintiefresh @Alphane_Moon whats the controversy surround it? im not aware of any

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

To my understanding (please take with several grains of salt), some folks felt like it would encourage toxicity since you can essentially mock something someone said without saying it to them directly, while sending your audience to the original post, and I believe for quite some time the plan was intentionally not to add it

On the other hand, I've heard folks suggest that by allowing people to have their own isolated conversation about an idea you can potentially limit some of the harmful consequences of people with large audiences or something, but I don't remember the exact explanation

Personally I'm happy to get quote posts and I'm happy that mastodon is cautious about implementing features that facilitate hostile interactions in the way that major platforms do for engagement

Hopefully someone can chime in with a more informed/detailed explanation, but I thought I'd share what I know in case I'm the only one to reply :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@Cris_Color thanks. Friendica has it and i dont see people talking down about it though. I also already seen people being that way (it was a conservative using #justsayin afterward, coming from another instance) on a reply, maybe just notify people of quote posts so its not something equivalent to be talking at their backs without them being aware of it, notification could help

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Note that for now, quote posts from other platforms will be displayed correctly in Mastodon 4.4. You can't quote posts yet. That will come in 4.5

(I will update mastodon.world tomorrow)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

I think quote posts are undesirable for the reasons you mentioned but I have to accept that it will be huge for adoption, and the flip side (promoting others work in a positive light) is also going to be really great.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It encourages dog-piling essentially

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@Olap i wasnt aware of it being used as argument against its implementation, thanks. Friendica has it implemented already as far as im aware

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Same with the Misskey clones. There have been some very dramatic opinions on both sides.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, my understanding is that originally they didn't want quote posts because it could lead to a culture of people dunking on each other and a lot of negativity.

So I believe there was a lot of resistance early on against that feature. That's just what I've seen people saying whenever this feature was requested over the past few years. I could be wrong though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

@mintiefresh thanks, i didnt question to put it into doubt, i was more questioning out of curiosity wondering i may be out of the loop about this subject :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

No idea, I do use Mastodon relatively regularly, but I am not on top of development discussions.

This was news for me so I decided to share. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

@Alphane_Moon thanks anyway :) some people were willing to share their thoughts on it. if it wasnt for your post with the people commenting on it i'd not know

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This is fantastic. I REALLY hope you can set a control on a post that allows quoting to be disabled or only allowed by people you follow. A great step in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

That is the plan, you can see more in our previous blog post.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

This is how it works on BlueSky. And you can detach your original post from someone else's quote post of it after-the-fact.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

This would be a really neat feature and would allow for the best of both worlds so to speak.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

For my understanding, what is the difference between a quote post and a post that contains a link to another post?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago

With a quote post, the post you are quoting is fully (text, avatar image) nested in your post.

It was commonly used on Twitter (I deleted my accounts some time ago).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

For a second there I thought you meant mastodon the band. Interesting new direction for the lads I thoughts to myself

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They did recently kick Brent out of the band, speaking of new directions

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, shit! He was always a bit vitriolic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I saw them in Philly like 5-6 years ago. Brent was getting increasingly agitated with the roadies in between songs. It got to the point where he smashed his monitor to pieces right on the stage. Guy clearly has some issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Was that the concert in, like, a parking lot on Columbus Blvd. which was secretly a Primus concert?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Nah it was outside at the electric factory. They played with Opeth, Gojira, and Devin Townsend. Wish I could relive that one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Whatever keeps us all tooting is good in my book. Enjoying the services and keep up the great work.