hamas famously known to be a long time supporter of LGBTQ+
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Israel just murder a hundred innocent trans people. They bombed a prison in Tehran, including a wing that housed the regime's trans prisoners. They dropped a massive precision bomb right on top of the trans wing and murdered a hundred innocent trans prisoners. I can't recall Hamas ever doing something like that to trans folks.
Fuck state of Israel, fuck Hamas. To think that a fundamentally islamic group would be ok with LGBTQ+ people rights is simply delusional though.
Why do you think that then?
Coming from a much more mildly religious context (compared to Hamas), I know how the majority of religious people feel about this issue. My perspective on the topic is if they are not oppressing them now, they sure will later especially if they come to power.
they did it twice
When?
That's because tankies don't operate on politics, like, they don't go out to make political movement or action. To them, it's theatre, and the more dramatic you can be, the more powerful you look.
It's all about being as oppressed as you can be. It's to make up for their feelings of guilt and shame being rich and lazy
Hexbear are a bunch of transwashing chuds.
i find it oddly strange people from instances like .zip downvote this post @[email protected] , generally i think the zip stance is acceptable of people of all minorities (AFAIK? but Sami is an admin from .zip so.. weird stance to take) which dbzer0 instance would be too then theres some oddities users one downvoted too @[email protected] some people here really in disguise "secretly" downvoting posts a fascist/bigot bootlicker would
Idk where you're getting this but my client has no up or down vote on this and I don't recall reading this post. I normally ignore flame war rage bait horseshit unless some turd ats me on some purity test witch hunt so congrats I've down voted it now.
You're engaging in bad faith just like the post itself is doing.
im open to your critic but just calling it bad faith and not elaborating more on why you think so is also bad faith
Sure, framing it as mandatory wholesale support for x,y,z is disengenuous the same way it would be to call someone who is not vehemently against the United States as a concept in its entirety a bigot due to their current persecution of racial and LGBT minorities. Multiple things can be true at once but when you zero in on specific injustices that nearly the entire world exhibited just 2 decades ago and apply the same standard to people experiencing very different conditions (for example, people who have only known conflict for their entire lives and have not had the same opportunities that rich, safe countries have had) then it comes off as dishonest or at the very least just very myopic and ill informed. Should those injustices be criticized: yes. Are the people pointing out the perceived hypocracy doing it because they genuinely care about LGBT people impacted in those countries: no. I don't agree with all perspectives expressed in the other direction but I understand why they exist when we exist in a space where certain people are painted with broad strokes while others are afforded infinite nuance in their positions.
fair points i may have misjudged you, my apologies
They're attention whores, and you willingly feed them.
I usually just lurk blahaj occaisionally but your post annoyed me enough to post for the first time in 2 years
From their thread:
https://hexbear.net/post/5521160
Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.
And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.
Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities
And Iran isn’t even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three.
Do they... do they realize this is because the death penalty for gay folks means that many opt for transitioning into a gender they don't identify with over death?
but they’ve also mentioned they’ve not met a single homeless trans person.
Oh good, shipping homeless people out of sight and out of mind has worked then, glory to the People's Republic of China!
Lol some top comments from their struggle thread following this one:
Stupid fucking ass moron liberals can't fathom having multiple different priorities, and in this case holding internationalism and socialism through anti-imperialism as a priority above sexuality or gender-identity.
I actually think they CAN comprehend it because they all hold nationalism above these things anyway. Gender-identity and sexuality to them are deprioritised when it comes to America's strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia for example, why? Because they are nationalists that place their nationalism and supremacy above that of these issues.
The good old "well, they're muslim so they have to be as bad as the Taliban/ISIS and completely indistinguishable. I won't look into this at all." thing. Israel's policies are in line with many of these nations on LGBTQ, with exceptions only to pink-wash their genocidal ethno-state.
and they wonder why the communists were betrayed by Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East.
LMAO I got 4 comments deep in their thread before I bailed from the radioactive dumbassery. First one accused me of masturbating while writing this post (WTF?!), second accused me of supporting bombing those countries (I don't), third was defending non-voters (Because Trump loves LGBT, Iran, and Palestine, right guys?) and the fourth said Iran has better trans healthcare than the US ( Hmmm... Wonder what that could be about...)
For the most part because you can support their right not to be bombed into oblivion to further America’s imperial ambitions and also disagree with how they treat their lgbtq people. Often these countries were left leaning in the past until America installed a right-wing government.
but the islamic revolution was in opposition to the US. Why do that to themselves?
They didn’t do the islamic revolution but they did do a coup 26 years earlier (for oil, of course) which installed the government that the islamic revolution was revolting against.
Edit: For more context these are some of the policies of the man the US overthrew (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh#Prime_Minister_of_Iran)
The new administration introduced a wide range of social reforms: unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labour in their landlords' estates. In 1952, Mosaddegh passed the Land Reform Act, which forced landlords to place 20% of their revenue into a development fund. This development fund paid for various projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control.[34]
In March 1951, Mosaddegh nationalised the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, cancelling its oil concession, which was otherwise set to expire in 1993, and expropriating its assets. Mosaddegh saw the AIOC as an arm of the British government controlling much of the oil in Iran, pushing him to seize what the British had built in Iran.[35] The next month, a committee of five majlis deputies was sent to Khuzistan to enforce the nationalisation.[36][37] Mosaddegh justified his nationalisation policy by claiming Iran was "the rightful owner..." of all the oil in Iran.
They didn’t do the islamic revolution
The islamic revolution is the iranian revolution.
Yes I was saying they as in America didn’t do the islamic/iranian revolution
oh okay. you just linked to the iranian revolution, so
Oh, my bad. I fixed the link
But you can support these people without supporting their corrupt and violent government?
I stand for solidarity with all peoples, not their rulers.
Often these countries were left leaning in the past until America installed a right-wing government
Ahh, we're lying again.
it’s not a lie necessarily but i’d agree that it’s disingenuous to point towards these moments in history and to then use that as a tenuous basis for implying that the right-wing extremism in the middle east just popped up one day out of a vacuum only because evil american goblins invaded the land. i am well aware of what the OP comment is referring to, generally, but the description of these societies as “left-leaning” doesn’t really land for me. like i said, it’s not necessarily wrong but it’s somewhat disingenuous and binary to say that.
surprise, every society-at-scale, ever, has been metrically shit and had a significant contingent of traditionalist and bigots that form the bedrock of the historical “go-fuck-yourself-with-a-stick-of-razorblades” party.
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Really? Right in front of my blahaj.zone?
I'm pretty sure if someone posts something transphobic, ada personally hunts them down and shoots them with a rifle.
is that what she did when drag was telling trans folk to kill themselves?
I'm pretty sure that's a yes.
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