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Cross-posted from "Reddit’s UK users must now prove they’re 18 to view many types of content" by @[email protected] in [email protected]


cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/43948771

Reddit hires company to verify user age with selfie or photo of government ID.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Gotta put a lot of trust in some third party company not to reveal all the kinky stuff you watch that's tied to your identity.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Spoiler: they absolutely will reveal it. It will be hosted on a US cloud.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everything you do online has to run through third parties you know nothing about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's quite a claim! Can you give concrete examples?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your comment is an example. Without certain measures in place, your comment is now potentially in the hands of:
Your instance
Your app/browser
Your local network
Your ISP
Your OS
Your Government
These are just examples, but you have to trust that each of these privacy policies or your equivalent of them is telling the truth, or have measures in place to mitigate said data collection

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

The original comment stated that everything I do online is (1) both tied to my real identity and (2) that these intermediaries can interpret and share/sell the content.

Can you give an example that's not an intentionally public comment, on a public platform?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Its possible the Gov't knows who actually owns this account just due to the massive snooping done by alphabet soup agencies. I find it unlikely my ISP is breaking my quantum encrypted VPN just for ads, and I find it unlikely my linux router and linux computer are spying on me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

find it unlikely my linux router and linux computer are spying on me.

Yeah, that would require some serious commitment from the spooks. So really depends if your shit posting is national security concern lol

TBH, I am pretty sure half of fedi will be sent into Gitmo in the future

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I find it unlikely my ISP is breaking my quantum encrypted VPN just for ads

They don't need to break encryption. You have an account to post here, and I'm assuming you are using the same device to access other services you have which also use accounts, right? Now, suppose your IP address doesn't rotate very often, it would be very easy for a company like Google to relate at least a few accounts to start building a profile.

Then, since posting here is pretty easy to scrape, even more data can be collected... like the fact that you use a linux router and OS. The profile keeps getting bigger with every new interaction, and at some point, it won't even matter if your IP changes, because there may be enough static data somewhere that could be linked to a different account (i.e. your phone, phone's OS, screen size, etc. can be used to isolate you from other users).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Can you give concrete examples?

Sure! You know those concrete pads with metal boxes on them outside of most buildings? Most of your data probably runs through something like that, which is entirely owned and operated by complete strangers to you, who could very easily be recording a copy of all the data which passes through the physical machines they own and operate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That’s quite a claim! Can you give concrete examples?

First give an example of online use case that you'd think is safe and private, and I'll list ways that it probably isn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what that is, nor have I used it, but I'm assuming it requires an internet connection, operating system, and browser at the very least. If so, there are multiple ways in which your ISP, browser (and any plug-ins you use in the browser), as well as the method of connecting to the internet (i.e. DNS server, wifi/router, mobile data connection, etc.) that could be used to collect data or metadata to build a profile. The device you are using, or even the screen-size could be useful to an attacker (or marketer).

That doesn't mean that the contents of whatever is being transferred to/from "bitmessage" can be read, but "someone" would know that you're using Bitmessage at the very least, the times you use it, perhaps the location you use it from, the device, OS, what plug-ins you might use. DNS records could build an even clearer picture of your activities. If Bitmessage requires an account or other form of verifying who you are (or how someone can contact you), then those could be collected and used against you.

That's not to say you can't protect yourself from some of the snooping. But apparently, the more you do, the more unique your online fingerprint is, which ironically, makes you more vulnerable.

Because the internet isn't truly P2P (there's always a third-party in the mix, either to deliver the data service or to relay data), you have to assume there are third-parties who can (and probably do) collect data from your activities.

But... your threat model also influences whether these "risks" are even worth worrying about. If you're a regular teen on Reddit, you probably don't give a shit at all. But if you're a public figure, perhaps one who would be a target for governments or bad actors, then every link in the chain of interactions you have with the internet could expose you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It doesn't use a browser, nor DNS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessage.

It broadcasts all messages, but only the intended recipient can read the message with their private key. So in terms of metadata, they can't even see who is contacting who. All the third parties know, afaik, is that you use it. They don't even know when and to or from whom messages are send.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How do you "connect" to it? Via standard internet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Tcp/ip yes, p2p like bittorrent. You need the address of one peer, who then sends you a list of peers they know, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I also now have your comment

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Governments all around europe are so scared of people communicating.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is more the Government pandering to the worst group of bastards - parents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm a parent and don't buy into this "think of the children" bullshit. Only the most gullible think that it's a legitimate reason. It's always been about govt surveillance.

I just teach my kids to not be total morons online, and clamp down on their internet activities myself. You know, like a parent should be doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Government allows children to be raped by church, regime whores and nepo baby owner class...

But they now expect the peasants to believe them on this 🤡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

"For your safety...."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"For the children" is simple subterfuge.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You basically have to go there to view the NSFW content, don't you? I looked around some server federation rules and it seems like most servers block that one's local communities. (It doesn't appear to be out of ill will for the server, as most of them still allow federation of non-NSFW communities... But I imagine it's a large chunk of data to federate with very little reward since most Lemmy servers are run on little more than donations, volunteer efforts, and fumes.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Bruh, I've been 18+ since I was 14! 😁

Also, this is just another way to collect personal data that you'd never willingly give up through normal interaction with their platform.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A few years ago YT suddenly started to enforce their system of not allowing me to watch videos tagged as 18+, my account was 17 years or so old, but I had never verified it, then it ticked over to 18 years old a few months later, and everything works now...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can't watch a lot of youtube videos because of that, as that made them require an account.

This legislation will make sure everything gets locked behind an identifying login, lest a bad word might appear, and they get fined.

Good for the platforms and government ofcourse. It's only us people that lose.

Move along now. The joined corporate government newspeak will save you from evil. Feel like something's wrong? Here are your ssri's, osempic, and an AI best friend to keep you company 😚

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I have always been 18+ myself