It's not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.
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Yeah. I hear the term tankie all the time and no one has given me a concise answer yet. Also devs are the people that make the product, you know, the developers. Not the people policing it's content.
Tankie is a term used derogatory that essentially refers to people who are self proclaimed communists that support the CCP and other authoritarian governments that label themselves as communist. I'm decently sure the term is a reference to the Tiananmen Square.
The tankie triad is a reference to the 3 biggest instances for them: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net
Now in all honesty I have only seen a handful of bad faith actors. Usually it's because:
To me it's hypocritical to be against the current authoritarian and fascist US, but also be supportive of the authoritarian CCP and Russia. It's ok to recognize some actions that the CCP has done as an objectively good thing (like modernization of public transport), but they also deny the fact that the CCP has done atrocious acts and essentially bully the neighbors (aka the rest of Asia).
For reference I have no issues with the idea of socialism or even communism, but the CCP is far from those ideals.
The tankie name originally referred to those who supported the Soviets when they ran a bunch of people over during the Hungarian Revolution.
Thank you for the very well thought out reply.
Also devs are the people that make the product, you know, the developers. Not the people policing it's content.
They also have the biggest Lemmy instance with lots of big communities where they enforce the “xi jin ping/putin/kim jung un/mao/stalin/etc… is good, west bad” policy under the name of “Rule 1”
They are only the 4th
Anyone left of Reagan is a tankie.
Fuck Reagan. Guess everyone on this site except you is a take them...
You can click the links in the sidebar for what a tankie is.
But basically they're an extremist who believe in extraordinary violence, genocide and authoritarianism. They're also called red fascists, in that they share the same views and talking points of fascists, but with a pseudo-communist tinge.
Gotcha. Thank you for explaining it homie!
The term tankie came to be after instances of the USSR suppressing protests by driving tanks into the protestors. Like the Prague Spring in Czechoslovakia in 1968. This resulted in people, in the west, who are leftists, defending these actions, as some sort of necessity, in order to maintain communism. The defense of the extreme authoritarianism used here, IE using tanks to kill people, is where the term "Tankie" comes from.
Thank you for connecting the dots for me. There were other replies that while informative, didn't explain the name. This makes much more sense.
yup, no problem, good bit of trivia to know, especially here
wait, some people don't think they're tankies? I'd say they're pretty open about it.
"Ah yes. These developers made an alternative to reddit and gave it to the people without any ads, spending hours without a paycheck for their code. Surely they must be business-owners."
Are you saying that if you aren't capitalist then you are a tanky? That may be a hint reductionist lol.
Huh? They are openly tankies why would this be a hot take?
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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
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