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    [–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Hand starts shaking when he can't update once an hour.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Knees weak, as update not ready.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There's vomit in this cron job already

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    He's nervous. But on the surface he looks calm and ready to retry.

    [–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I started my Linux journey in the 90's with Red Hat Halloween. I'm sick and tired of troubleshooting and Debian based distros have been fully painless. Those of you learning your craft should absolutely try to manage things like Arch, just leave my old and tired ass be and I'll sit here with my old kernel and cheer you on.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yup - if your goal is to use Linux to learn how Linux works and how it's all put together then Arch is awesome. If you've got stuff to do and Linux is a tool to reach another goal, not so much. I like my tools to be stable, reliable and predictable.

    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    All of which are quite stable.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    broken saying

    FTFY

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I really like Debian, but for some reason my not-new-laptop didn't liked it. Issues with suspend, the WiFi and the NVME drive made me to nuke it last Wednesday and in its place I installed Fedora, which seems to play better with the hardware. At least I don't have problems with it in my desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    If you're running Debian stable, your hardware was probably too new for the kernel. Unless they changed their development paradigm when I last ran it, stable is always 2-3 years behind mainline Linux software aside from security patches. It's one of the key reasons why it's so stable.

    See the Don't Suffer from Shiny Stuff Syndrome on the official wiki.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    I mean, my laptop is a Dell from 2018-2019 with a 8th gen Core i5, so I don't think is too "new" πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Go to debian-testing. Your dayli updates are back too

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Been there, done that. It wasn't a bad experience, but also not a good one.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    A testing/sid hybrid is awesome on my hardware. These guides are pretty useful for keeping things sane:

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Can I talk about our lord and saviour, NixOS, in these parts?

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    I've tried nix and its just not it. Its got cool ideas tho!

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    Well, Debian Sid is rolling-release if that's your liking

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    As a Debian user I agree with Loius Rossmann's sage advice.

    Edit: (make sure you enable unattended security upgrades at least so you can pretend that you only update once every few months)

    [–] NoXzema 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    For those missing context, Rossman uses a software that helps view the layout of Mac hardware... and it breaks literally constantly.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    That made me laugh at my work desk ty

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Freebsd be like: where getopt

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Specifically, OpenBasedSecureDistro, with a desktop environment, for gaming

    Please send help, thanks

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    i use void linux and apparently it is a stable rolling release

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah and I'm a small-headed Arch user

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Are you me?) P.s been daily driving arch for 5 years and now switching back to Debian

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Use MX Linux instead, it's all the power of Debian with up to date everything.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It is? I don't see a mention of that on there website

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, I have kernel 6.5.10, latest Firefox (in .deb) etc

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Arch + debian = opensuse TW

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You will have a rolling release distribution similar to Arch, with the newest and freshest updates. However, it will be more stable than Arch because it undergoes thorough testing to ensure everything works fine. Additionally, there is a new tested stable update available almost every day. I recommend doing a little research about openSUSE Tumbleweed. It will help you stop distro hopping and allow you to focus more on productivity rather than fixing bugs (like with Arch).

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    I would advise against any rolling distro if you use Nvidia drivers and CUDA. When I was using Tumbleweed it kept breaking with kernel updates. This was common in the forums. I had to pin my kernel to an older version to fix it. It was not ideal.

    I've come full circle back to Debian stable. I'm sure at some point I'll need a newer package and be frustrated again. When the time comes, perhaps I'll try distrobox if I can't easily backport it.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    I have been running Manjaro(I know not arch) and have been happy with it. But I will definitely give tumbleweed a look. I like knowing I have the latest versions of things.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    I love opensuse and I've switched back to it from arch on two of my three computers, but the one thing I miss is the speed of pacman. I'll be working on something with an arch user and need to install something new and by the time zypper has refreshed the repos, pacman will have completely finished the whole installation

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Never had any issues with Arch