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The smart home tech inside your home is less secure than you think, new Northeastern research finds.::A team of researchers discovered vulnerabilities in smart home devices made by big technology companies like Google.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The S in IoT is for Security

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This perfectly encompasses the situation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So.. am I secured if I buy more than 1?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes but only during the full moon can Sailor Moon really keep you safe. Also, only when it's still in the box.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idk, that seems exactly as secure as I thought.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you care about this, but still want smart home tech, look into Home Assistant and use local-only devices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I could also extend that to Tasmota or espHome. They are both open source firmware for IoT devices. They update regularly, and are unlikely to be completely abandoned without warning. While you can flash it to devices yourself, you can also buy a number of devices with it pre-installed.

While I still consider all IoT devices inherently insecure, and treat them as such, these are a lot better than the other random options out there.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Joke's on you: I don't think it's secure and I don't have any!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no because its not in my home. good luck hacking my mechanical thermostat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some skinny dude in a Guy Fawkes mask sneaks in through the dog door and turns up the heat while you're at work

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where'd my kid get a Guy Fawkes mask?

Seriously, though, who cranks the thermostat to 30 and walks out the door?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The guy wearing a guy Fawkes mask. Didn't you listen?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

86F for my fellow Americans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for not just assuming I keep my house below freezing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Point taken. But I don't go anywhere for work lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, my good sir, not while you go into work.

While you're at work. If you're WFH, you could be staring at the door, that person is coming through the dog door anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mr. Doggy Man is going to get a stern lecture I can tell you

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's as insecure as it appears to be...like I expected.

https://www.candlesmarthome.com/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just love when developers are so close to a project that they forget to even explain what the thing is. I see this all the time with interesting projects like this.

What is it? Some kind of network device?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Looks like it’s a zigbee network device that is privacy forward, or something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I can assure you, it is not.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Hypponen’s Law: If It’s Smart, It’s Vulnerable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not overly convinced that anyone would be able to abuse any of my ghetto diy smart home gadgets

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"who shut my tv off?!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it’s smart to be stupid…or I guess not smart with everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sometimes it’s smart to be “stupid.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Couldn't possible be

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of this stuff should be called "dumb devices", as in "dumb terminal".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I know how insecure it is. Its always talking about how it feels sidelined and its feeling are hurt when I throw it in the trash.