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Reddit updates look after rough 6 months and ahead of reported IPO::"Edit: Obligatory 'F--- Spez' for karma."

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 189 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

reposting one of the worst things i've ever heard someone say:

“There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or AA, or never at all … But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”

eat my ass spez

[–] CIA_Chatbot@normalcity.life 114 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I hope you aren’t allergic to cats, because spez is a cat lover. https://i.imgur.com/NUl0BwX.png

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea why this exists, but I had to upvote it.

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[–] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Yay explicit exploitation of the most vulnerable in a community. Lots of this is cartoonishly evil.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 25 points 1 year ago

I knew people who needed the help of some of the subreddits he might be going on about, that is absolutely fucking disgusting.

Also I thought this was in the Ars article, but no, this was in an interview with the New York Times during the peak of the API protests!

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I dont have any direct experience with reddit any longer.

What I can say, is that I think a verrrrrrry significant portion of comments and commenters are actually reddit run bots. My source for this is my experience in the daily thread of a certain degenerate gambling forum. There were maybe like 12-30 posters who would reply, engage, etc... in the daily and day after threads. However, there was a yyyyyuuuuugggge number of accounts that would just comment with no real further engagement. Like you would respond to them, but they wouldnt respond back.

I truly believe that reddits internal business model is predicted on the use of reddit run bots to create synthetic engagement in certain audiences around marketing targets that a selective group of advertisers (read, not buying reddit ads) are given access to. The basics is that reddit astroturfs synthetic engagement until organic engagement takes over. I have no way of proving this and its pure speculation.

This is why I don't even worry about considering the user numbers on lemmy. Relying on my anectdotal experience, we've got about the usership/ engagement numbers from around the 2009-2011 time period, which is actually pretty amazing. Also, the overall lemmy experience is far superior, for example, just the ability to sort by a couple of different 'hot' options is a major improvement. I really think if the devs just keep vibing on their plan, lemmy will be more than strong enough to survive and continue for decades to come.

The fact is that reddit stole from us our faith in a 'good internet'. The users of reddit built reddit, not the company that owns it (they suck). The users of reddit paid for the server time and made the system work. That good faith was utterly exploited by the leadership of reddit and we should never forget how they stole from and exploited their community.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right about most of it. My only criticism is the first paragraph as I am notorious for just commenting and not responding. Literally if you reply I won't respond lol but I can't imagine I'm the only one. A better way to sniff them out would be profiling them and finding things like hobby subs where they would be significantly more likely to comment vs addiction subs where they may feel some shame in interacting or engaging in their addiction.

I'm pretty stupid so I could be talking out my ass but I figured input for data collection and such.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not saying you are wrong, but when I was active on Reddit I rarely checked my mail. I still have like 12k unread messages.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's quite a weird way to use...any account.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh oh... can we look forward to another wave of reddit leavers after inevitable changes to the site to please investors?

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone who didn't leave when old.reddit.com stopped being the default isn't going to leave over any other redesigns. They couldn't possibly be worse.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fall of Digg didn't happen in one single wave.

Lots of people just want to stay with what they're familiar with, and it takes loss of critical mass of content/interaction before they'll look at the door.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

It took an annoying girl in Uni, who was like 6 years younger than me, pestering me why I would still used Digg when reddit existed. I finally checked it out and never looked back. Then a couple years later everyone else I knew was on here.

[–] MeatsOfRage 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean it really was a single wave. V4 or whatever version it was fundamentally changed the way Digg worked in a big way overnight. It wasn't even the same thing anymore. Sure there were some holdovers but it's tough to compare the two like this.

With the exception of third party apps, Reddit still more or less works the same for the average user as it has forever.

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[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean ... that's almost certainly what's going to happen to some degree

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

See, we made the holes in the d's look like little talking bubbles. We're not evil. We're cuuuuuute. Money please!

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[–] ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At least they didn't rename themselves to "Y" I guess... Though that would be mildly hilarious.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spez is some kind of musk fanboy iirc so

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Up until day one past IPO.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that’s the day I completely stop using the site.

I’ve still been using it for technical stuff, because there’s a absolute shitload of extremely valuable and informative content on a bunch of engineering- and tech-oriented subs, but a lot of the users who were involved with that seem to be switching here, and a lot of THOSE users have applied scripts to nuke all comments on their account, so it’s steadily becoming less valuable and more out of date. That said, it’s a bummer that that the knowledge base contained in those communities are largely going to seed.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 year ago

I looked at reddit today, it looks like ass. Not nice ass either.

[–] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

Fuck spez I used that reddit for years. However you can only be fucked over so much.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Everyone here is on copium, not gonna lie.

Reddit isn't going to die. Honestly it has 1000x more content than lemmy.

Lemmy has a place and so does reddit.

[–] SLGC@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still browse reddit, simply because the size of the communities I want to visit is much larger there. My browsing is however confined to the mobile page in Firefox, which is slow, clunky, and breaks frequently, which means my reddit usage is down by something like 99%. Lemmy has the sync app, and without the app I wouldn't be here. Browsing Lemmy before it was awful.

Also, I kinda like that Lemmy is smaller. There's much less noise, less of an algorithm feel to browsing. It feels slightly more like the internet I grew up with in the 90s and 00s, and I kinda missed that.

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[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL not supporting businesses you don't agree with = being on copium.

Guess I better go buy Nestle products again.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago

No I think that's fine, it's just I see people thinking that reddit is literally dying, which is just not the case.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Honestly it has 1000x more content than lemmy.

So steal the content and post it here. At least the good stuff.

There aren't any laws preventing you from doing that.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago
[–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like one of those soulless Apple animoji things.

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[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Has he tried publicly spouting fringe fascist conspiracy theories yet? No? Give it time.....

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good riddance to reddit. Haven't been on it since the API pricing kicked in.

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[–] Zummy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

As soon as copious amounts of money are involved, you see the change. I never even used the 3rd party Reddit apps, but when money made OG Reddit act like a dick towards them, I peaced out. Sorry Reddit, but I think you’ll eventually be Digg. And I have no interest in sticking around for that.

[–] Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i still use reddit a lot of comunities havent left and my god the amout of bots now is insane entire threads are coppied with 1 year 6 month old acounts with zero history and what i think is ai spam from simualr acounts its a mess over there now what brainless idiot is letting this happen

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

A friend of mine was talking about how they had blatant homophobia sent their way on an LGBT subreddit, which was upvoted. Went to check r/ApolloApp and someone critical of the dev (because he was selling merch) was being blatantly and casually homophobic with similar upvote behaviour.

I'm not an easily offended guy but, honestly, I'm glad I left that shithole.

[–] Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They did kick out a lot of mods during the protests and moderation has gone to utter shit since the api change

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[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"Edit: Obligatory 'Fuck Spez' for karma."

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more!"

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