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specifically : a historical process by which the semantic and connotative status of a word tends to decline

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[–] marietta_man@yall.theatl.social 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

In what world is the Wall Street Journal “liberal media”? The same WSJ owned/run by Rupert Murdoch and his son? Or is there another one?

The word liberal lost all meaning in the media as soon as Trump started misusing to attack his enemies and every outlet just ran with it.

[–] Jessvj93@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thought Bezos bought it as a mouthpiece?

Edit: ah wait it was the Washington Post

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Wall Street is in New York. New York is liberal AF.

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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberal media

Wall Street Journal

Pick one.

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why is it liberal media when wall Street journal is right leaning and Adam Kirsch doesn't have any posted political affiliations?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Because OP is the worst. Perpetually online and perpetually unpopular

I saw this photograph of a printed article someone posted earlier. The comments called that person out for cropping out the actual article, which was measured and nuanced, and using the headline as ragebait. Dude here just elevating to the next level of ignorant

Here's the actual article

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[–] AngryHumanoid@reddthat.com 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because TokenBoomer is a rightwing shill, posts nothing but anti-leftwing stuff pretending its all #BothSides.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

"liberal" is used here as in neoliberal, which is rightwing and capitalist.

also in the us, democrats lean slightly right of center.

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[–] alertsleeper@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

it says the term has lost impact, I agree. Doesn;t mean it should be 'retired' but I get the point.

Other words have also lost impact. 'Democracy' comes to mind. I live in a dictatorship that on a daily basis call themselves a Peoples' Democracy, and half the world agrees

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Liberalism is another one. From Wikipedia

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

It's bizarre to see knee-jerk reactions to something if it is described as "a tennet of liberalism". They will rail against the values of the founding fathers who were, in this sense, liberals. Now I don't care too much arguments of founding principles, but to see these people, who claim the constitution is inspired by God, bash liberalism in the context of governing philosophies is infuriating.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] alertsleeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. I'll give you a hint. One of the three main communist dictatorship in Latin America (currently)

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think the wrong use of the word has led to it losing impact, just people are more comfortable using it. A lot of people think genocide is like, the Holocaust, but nobody actually needs to die for something to be genocide. It can refer to the destruction of culture or religion within a specific group as well. Like sending first nation children to residential schools. Even if no one died in that process it was genocide by trying to eliminate the culture.

People are just more comfortable with using the word as it is defined as, rather than just the really treacherous stuff like Nazi Germany and Rwanda.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like how the C became a copyright symbol.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word "no".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

[–] if_only@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Betteridge's law of headlines

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is WSJ liberal? I thought it was right wing corpo propaganda?

[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

News? Centrist (e.g., see their 2021 coverage of The Facebook Files).

Opinion? Oh boy...

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

To a socialist, it’s all liberal.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well WSJ is center or center left depending on the day and who you ask. That's the point though, to lend credibility and provide cover for their solidly right editorial/opinion pieces.

OPs meme is the perfect example of how this is supposed to work, confusing the source and shifting the window with people that aren't aware. "This is a liberal media news source, so this must be an accepted opinion in liberal media circles"

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

WSJ was center-right before it got bought up by the Murdochs, and while its news coverage hasn't drifted too far post-acquisistion, its editorial page has slumped noticeably in the direction of Fox News.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

The WSJ editorial staff called a bike share program "totalitarian communism". The program was run by CitiBank.

They are unhinged conservatives. They just don't always let their privates hang out the way Alex Jones does.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"We will do ANYTHING to get this genocide done without akwnowledging it being a genocide."

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