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I almost don’t dare to say this, but I’ve been running the snap for more than a year and have no complaints.
Too daring of you to say snap
I've been on the snap version for three years with zero problems. It was originally created as a VM on virtualbox, then ported over to proxmox. Every OS and instance upgrade has gone off without a hitch so far.
6 years here and went from ubuntu 16 to 22
Glad someone said it out loud 😁 I've been running the snap for almost three years now 24/7. I works really well!
My problem with nextcloud is more the performance of the web interface rather than it's reliability (and that's even with mariadb + redis setup and a decently fast minipc). It's fine if you avoid the web interface, but that's part of the draw of the thing.
The poor performance carries over to the sync clients too because they're just using webdav http requests. Nextcloud will take like 10+ hours to sync my folders, vs about 10 minutes with Syncthing or something else.
The performance is indeed pretty terrible. Most stuff runs fine on my NUCs except nextcloud. Maybe throwing more hardware at it solves it though.
Nope lol I have a pretty godly server and nextcloud is slow as a mf
MariaDB runs like hot garbage with Nextcloud imo. I’ve gotten to the point where I use legit MySQL or PostgreSQL and performance is night and day. I have no idea why Maria acts out with Nextcloud for me, but I’ve gotten tired of troubleshooting it.
What name do you assign the DB for PostgreSQL in Docker and does it by chance happen to match the name of any other containers, possibly in other docker compose files?
I'm only mentioning it because I experienced weird inconsistent issues with a service I was running where it was sometimes having trouble connecting to its DB companion and I eventually realized that it was sometimes connecting to the other container. I was also finding that turning it off and on again was often 'fixing' the issue, at least for a while. Might be worth checking out. I'd also consider viewing the logs for Nextcloud (docker logs -f ) when you're unable to login and see if there are any errors. Frankly I've never had these specific issues with Nextcloud, and given that it's based on PHP (it only 'executes' on an HTTP request), it seems like restarting shouldn't help unless it's something else.
I haven't got this kind of issue with nextcloud, I'm pretty sure you can reset your password using occ via cli
I'm using the LSIO docker image and I could not locate the occ file to fire off the reset - but even then - I didn't need to reset my password anyway..
Most likely you got blocked for some time by the brute force prevention. Have a look at your logfiles.
I am using nextcloud for years now with postgres, redis and configured PHP setttings, but I installed it on the host. Never had any problems, Performance is awesome... Almost everytime I read about problems is with the docker images. The new AIO image shall be bad too, but I can not say anything to this, since I don't use it.
I really like docker, but sometimes it is better to install on the host directly or use an LXC if you need isolation. MinIO is the same... Would not want it in a Container
Maybe seafile could be an option for you 🤔
Bare metal club! :D
That's how I ran my nextcloud for about a decade and never had problems. On my new server I'm running it in docker and so far it seems to work ok.
Just wanted to +1 your comment. Installing on bare metal host is higher risk, but higher reward as well in terms of stability and performance. In my case I’m using mariaDB, redis, php, and apache and it’s been solid for years now.
I used it with mariadb before, converting to postgres gave a performanceboost. Don't ask me why but it ran faster
If you are intrested, than here is a guide 😊
I’m interested, it’s on the list but pretty far down. pgsql is better hands down imho but I followed nextcloud recommendations at the time I set things up and just never switched. Thanks for the guide!!
For photos, I'd highly recommend checking out Photoprism.
the "PhotoSync" app available for both android and apple can sync from your phone to photoprism.
But, nextcloud itself, works pretty nice for me. But, I use OIDC-based logon, with Authentik.
Would highly reccomend https://immich.app/ too. It's the solution I've finally landed on after trying out most of the options out there.
Maybe try https://github.com/kd2org/karadav if you want to continue using the NC apps for photo backups.
Would be interesting to hear a little more about your setup. I had some issues when I had Nextcloud installed directly on Debian (though nothing this major), have since switched to running it on Docker and it's been very solid.
Nextcloud is an overkill. Its just too much. I'd say better split down the needed services. Baikal/radicale etc for contacts/calendar. Photoprism/librephotos etc for photos. A webdav server for storage. And so on.
So, now's as good a time as any to ask. Why is everyone using Nextcloud? I've been quietly using Owncloud for a very long time and never had any issues with it. How is Owncloud bad?
Owncloud is not fully open source. Nextcloud is. They have developed in different directions since then, but that remains the fundamental difference that split them apart in the first place. If that matters to you, Nextcloud is the right choice. If that doesn't matter to you, then use whichever you prefer and has the features you need.
This is a good summary, but the Tl;DR is that Owncloud has a non-open source Enterprise version with extra features you need to pay for, while Nextcloud is a fully open source fork.
the Tl;DR is that Owncloud has a non-open source Enterprise version with extra features you need to pay for
This isn't any different than a lot of other softwares, though... Nextcloud has the same Enterprise pricing/features shit, too. https://nextcloud.com/enterprises/
Actually, so does Photoprism. https://www.photoprism.app/features
I’ve been running two NC instances for over five years (linuxserver docker images)—one has been issue-free, and the other had sporadic issues like OP is describing... but not for the last year or so, so I assumed the issue had been fixed in an update. Or maybe the problem was the network configuration instead of NC.
use immich for photos.
owncloud ocis works but is very young. is literally just file hosting with something to open office files online.
Mine has randomly done that for the last few versions now. I also noticed it now maintains several cookies that I have to clear before I can log in successfully again.
I do have Redis configured with it, have never used their AIO image, and previously, the session ID was the only cookie. Haven't kept quite up to date with NC's development, but maybe it's no longer using PHP's session store in favor of its own mechanism?
Unfortunately, I'm too invested in NC to start switching everything to discrete apps, so I guess I just have to put up with it. :shrug:
For this exact reason I'm using NextCloud as a service. You can even install plugins.
It's a trade-off ofc but it works rocks solid so far.
I'm not affiliated with that particular provider though.
I also stopped using Nextcloud after it broke a couple of times. As a consequence I also never use :latest tag on any docker container anymore - manual updates only
When I switched to Android phone, I also switched to syncthing. If you have enough storage on your phone, it is amazing! Never looked back