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Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker::Elon Musk once scoffed at the notion that BYD could compete with his company. Now, the automaker run by billionaire Wang Chuanfu is poised to be the new No. 1 in electric vehicles.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The fact that the headline says "Chinese Carmaker" and not "BYD" says a lot about their international market share.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Poorly. Just add the name after Chinese Car maker.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not sure if it’s that or clickbait to get you to find out who it is. That kinda crap has been rampant lately.

Could be both though honestly. Either way, I’m sick of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I agree with that, I guess it could have been added after the original headline, maybe putting it in parenthesis.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Eh, it's diminished when that one country holds nearly 17% of earth's entire population, or nearly as much as the next 6 countries by population combined.

When you have that much market, nearly anything you do will break population-based records.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

The headline also says overtakes, while it says "poised to be" in the text.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

It says a lot about that "journalist" knowledge of the topic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

To be fair they are just now entering the US market

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Huge in Europe and Australia for sure

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (25 children)

oh look, someone doing ev that can actually make vehicles, and theyve eclipsed tesla... no wayy..

no one could have predicted this except, ya know, everyone.

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[–] jaschen 36 points 2 years ago (21 children)

I don't wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You can be that guy all you want, those garbage tofu cars are still dominating the market.

[–] jaschen 16 points 2 years ago

I know they are dominating the market. But I'm explaining why they are. It's NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).

Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it's the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Dominating which market though? China is heavily subsidizing these cars like they do with a lot of new tech when they want to undercut non-Chinese companies. I guarantee if any other manufacturer had similar subsidies, the situation would be different.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don't want them. Shocked!

None of you would purchase this car to any Toyota quality wise as well. These things are sub Mitsubishi quality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

But it wouldn't hurt if US could massively subsidize it's own cheap EV options

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh, the US will slap enough tariffs on these things to make their own Autoindustry competitive again.

So will the EU.

But china has a gigantic middle-class that can afford these things, so I hope they all switch to EV en masse.. it's a win for the planet!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tariff slapping had been tried by Trump. Very poor outcomes. There will be a more moderated approach, but we will need to see how that pans out

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And still their shares are just a fraction of Tesla's share price.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Company is beholden to the Chinese government, apparently that is worse than beholden to a manchid and a group of ultrarich shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Rather ironically, BYD is probably closer to the "value investing" (realistic) value than most hyper-inflated western stocks, which completely decoupled from reality a long time ago...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

BYD is available in most of the world, the story linked beneath is about a newer model ATTO, but Dolphin is probably even more popular: https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/27/byd-atto-3-now-available-in-50-countries-neta-auto-enters-central-south-america/
This is an overview of their global presence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Auto#Global_expansion

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