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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Speaking of "paying 10% for the privilege", one of the things irked me was my dad's insistence that tithes had to be monetary. Per him, volunteer work didn't count.

I was roped into running the computer, or doing the sound, for all 5 services Saturday + Sunday, plus practice before hand. 16 hour commitment twice a month.

My day job was only 20 hours/wk back then, so in terms of time, my volunteer work was ~30% of all my work. Yet my dad still insisted I payed 10% of the taxed cash I received...

That was one of many "cuts" in my "death by 1000" for being religious.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

  • George Carlin
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bible never actually mandates giving 10% of your money to anything, much less the church, which didn't exist. That said, it does say a lot about wealth and how it should be used.

" From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded."

"...The rust of your wealth will be used as evidence against you."

In fact, a very central theme throughout the Bible is along the lines of, "I told you guys to take care of the poor and needy. You didn't do that. I'm pretty pissed about it, FYI. So, I'm going to tell you again. Take care of the poor and needy. --Sincerely, God".

Personally, I think people should be generous with their money. I think Christians, if they believe anything Jesus said, have an obligation to be generous. Our family gives money to our church but our church is highly mission centered and we do what we can to take care of those in our community who have needs. It's good to be able to help people but it's also very sobering because you find out that the needs are enormous.

The fact that a lot of churches have a money furnace in the basement and don't contribute anything meaningful to the world has earned Christianity some well deserved criticism. But not all churches are like that.

You should be charitable to the extent you are able. No more, no less. And money, time, and talent are all valid ways to do that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Time is money

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Don't get high on your own supply!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Omnipotent God, Creator of all things, ruler of heaven and earth ..... needs 10% of your wages because he can't make ends meet ...... this universe ain't gonna pay for itself is it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sources for the OP references:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-46&version=ESV

34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

On divorce:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019&version=NIV

9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

On abortion:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Any and all religious folks are indoctrinated and mentally ill.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This si how it's been explained to me.

Noah was a drunk, King David killed a husband to get near his wife, Solomon had thousands of concubines, and so on and so on...

The Lord can use a less than perfect man to deliver his message, and aren't we all sinners?

And yes, I think that's complete and utter bull.