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Bluesky posts are finally open to the public::Bluesky remains an invite-only decentralized Twitter alternative, but now, you don’t need to be logged in to be able to see posts on the platform. The app has a new logo, too.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can tell that technology is advancing rapidly because now you can type short-form text on the internet and everybody can read it. Truly innovative stuff.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it'll catch on only to get destroyed by political operatives and bots

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I got sent an invite ages ago. I've jumped in every so often but I am always shocked by how crap it is. Mastodon is so much better.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

IKR? I'm disappointed that most of my favorite artists went there, instead of something like Mastodon

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People like to pretend Mastodon is confusing

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretend? I'm a computer nerd and I put off signing up for Mastodon for months because of how complicated it is. I completely understand why normies nope the hell off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What people don't understand is that you're the algorithm on mastodon. You're doing the work.

I'm on it and it's actually my best experience on social media for a long long time. People are nice and discussions aren't toxic like on others. But, it comes with the cost to be the algorithm.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Im an idiotic old man who can barely repair my PC anymore and it was very easy to make an account here and on mastodon. Dunno what people are on about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not creating the account that is the problem. It's learning what you should know about the instance you choose, then choosing an instance, and understanding how the federation of posts work. Etc.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

More like people like to act smug and pretend it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I found it and Lemmy frustrating to get started tbh. Besides the flagship instances early on finding a server I could actually join was a lot of research and trial and error.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don't get the hate, I've been there for a year and the place is pretty cool with many writers and artists that aren't on Mastodon. It feels like twitter on the good days. Maybe if you curate your friend list better you would get a better timeline?

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They missed their chances. When I got the invite a few weeks ago, I did no longer care, because I already switched to Lemmy. There's no place for Bluesky anymore, they missed the Twitter exodus and the Reddit one. They should've send my code years ago but didn't. Such a fail of a company.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I deleted my Bluesky account because no one who i invited used it. And bluesky invites are not even hot anymore, the last time i posted a bunch online no one grabbed them.

Mastodon and Lemmy fills my void enough i don't need extra places to go

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to me how Bluesky is different than Mastodon and if it’s not different why they bothered creating it when Mastodon exists? I truly don’t get it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s likely that when Bluesky rolls out in full, advertisers will have the ability to place ads in networks or user interest groups similar to Reddit’s framework. This user self-selection will be extremely useful to businesses running targeted campaigns.

https://marketvantage.com/blog/what-does-bluesky-mean-for-advertising/

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't see what similarities to mastodon it has

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They built their own federated protocol and it's a microblog

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it isn't very federal at the moment

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

less confusing to sign up and use, nice clean looking app, same look and feel as the OG twitter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You could build all that on top of Mastodon too though. E.g mozilla.social uses Firefox accounts to sign in and the Elk theme.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly just the protocol. Mastodon uses ActivityPub. Bluesky uses some other shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Atprotocol.

Mastodon and activitypub is very much like social media implemented in the form of public email lists implemented over HTTP (push massages between servers).

Bluesky uses content addressing (think magnet links for torrents, but for linking to post data) and pull mechanism with notifications, plus public shared archive nodes (CDN-like servers).

The main difference is that you're much more independent of individual servers and can easily move your account around, since your account ID is tied to a cryptographic key belonging to your account which you bring with you along with your post archive, and your handle can be based on a domain name you own (also works as a verification mechanism you don't have to pay extra for).

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

I got my "early" invite code a couple weeks ago and it was pretty cool finding accounts I'd previously followed on Twitter... and seeing how they haven't posted in months

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

its kind of crazy to me how many people are moving over to that place. on one hand i appreciate that it's somewhat containing twitter culture ~~protecting much better new socials like cohost~~ but on the other, it is frustrating to have no access to so many people who switched to blue sky's with its bizarre and abrubt popularity as an alternative platform despite being diet fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now everyone can see how shit it is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

That's not a very high bar to exceed

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but note by "public" they really mean "if the post doesn't require you to login". They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be "public" but still require a login to see it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The API is pretty much fully open, look up the firehose api for bluesky. This change just allows easy linking

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hope you like furries and dicks

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

👀 Anybody got a Bluesky invite?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off. It'll never ever go anywhere if people can't even use it.

All it has to do is copy Twitter when it was good some years ago, and do it very reliably. That's it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Because the moderation tools aren't ready for opening it up fully. You can already clone the code and run your own servers

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What do y'all think we can learn or adapt from Bluesky's protocol(s)/innovations?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Invite codes for so instances dont have to be approval only it can be approval and invite

Subdomain based usernames instead of two @‘s like @nix.merv.news as my username so every OS doesnt think its an email when clicking. Plus its easier because I can just share nix.merv.news and people can just click it and go to it.

Being able to change your @ without losing your posts. Being able to keep your followers if your instance goes down

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Why are people here, on this federated platform, excited for a centralized twitter clone that will eventually, inevitably, succumb to the same fate?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

First time I'm seeing what it looks like. Looks exactly like Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


If you want to prevent people who aren’t logged in from seeing your posts, you can “discourage” that by clicking a toggle in settings.

But Bluesky notes that “other apps may not honor this request” and that the toggle doesn’t make your account private.

Previously, the app’s logo was a blue sky with clouds, but “early on, we noticed that people were organically using the butterfly emoji 🦋 to indicate their Bluesky handles,” Graber says in the blog post.

And, as spotted by my colleague Parker Ortolani, the app has a fun animation that will feel familiar to fans of Twitter.

With the increasing momentum behind ActivityPub — including the very public support from Meta’s Threads — I’ve worried that Bluesky, which is based on its own AT Protocol, might get left behind.

But every time I hop over to my Bluesky account, it seems like people are having a lot of fun — the platform seems to be growing quickly, too — so hopefully the protocols can co-exist and usher in a fediverse future.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I got my invite and quickly deleted it when I found out that everyone there loved James Gunn and came at me for pointing out he can't be the flagship celeb to advertise the platform. My notifications blew up for days. It wasn't worth sticking around getting harassed when I'm not the bad person!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deleted mine. Nothing ever happened then the big news was some guy from Lockheed Martin was being a sex pest towards women by getting them to pity him, starting to think bluesky doesn't attract the best people

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The public feed is 99% naked furries and you have to click their profile to see more naked furries to mute them. No thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No edit post, no deal.

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