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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I hope Game Freak sees this as a wake up call. People will kill for a Pokemon game with a little innovation.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would they? It takes effort to make something innovative. They can make buckets of money by doing nothing. They might make more, but it's going to cost a lot more too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This game literally cost 6 million though, that's nothing to the Pokemon company.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pokemon Arceus had a little innovation. The thing is: a little innovation after decades of doing the same thing is like a textbook example of "too little, too late".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Also Pokémon Arceus was still empty and boring

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think that GameFreak will see this as a wake up call. And even if it does, it might not do the necessary changes to Pokémon main series.

The stagnation runs deeper. It is partially caused by inertia ("we're selling well, why bother innovating?"), but also by GF's insistence on making the main series story-driven instead of gameplay-driven. Even if story-driven Pokémon goes a lot against the franchise's biggest strength - a wide, unique, and immersive universe to explore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except Palworld is insanely popular with essentially no story...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's the point. Pokemon could be successful in the same way but they're saying Game Freak doesn't want to change how they do things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Omg I'm an idiot, I completely misread what they were saying, I thought they were saying gf needed to focus more on story and the gameplay being stagnant doesn't help. I'll chalk that up to morning brain.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Because it's gameplay-driven.

There's no Rotom bossing you around. No "sit down you player, as we tell you what's supposed to be your story". No unnecessary broken bridges forcing story linearity. The story that you see in this sort of game is the one that you build as you interact with the game, not the one that the developer wants you to watch.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah really goes to show just how massive this market is, and how horribly game freak has whiffed here

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're probably finding out all the ways to sue PalWorld in.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty good. there's a little jank but a lot of heart. I was surprised to see that Every pal had battle, working, eating, and petting animations.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a glitch where you can tame the bosses too - and even those have animations.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Are you sure it's a glitch?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I thought that's intentional.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can butcher any pal........

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

But at the same time, you do not need to butcher anything. I did find it amusing how the animation for butchering has heavy mosaic censoring though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

and this doesn't even include any of the GamePass players, right?

The game wouldn't run for me on GamePass, crashes every 15 seconds... so I guess I'll on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's only steam.
It runs on steam, i host a server and sometimes got some big old frame drops. Otherwise it runs pretty well for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's on Gamepass. I downloaded but haven't played yet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's about the statistics from this post. And these only consider the steam players. :)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

I honestly don't understand how people saw this slop and all just threw their wallets at it. The only way I can cope with this beating fucking Counter Strike is that it's "Adult Pokemon" premise was too interesting to pass up. I can't imagine it'll be like this in a month or several. As an outsider this is beyond bizarre to watch. Maybe PETA got to me but it turns my stomach watching people gleefully butcher and enslave Pokemon.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

The uniformed virtue signaling is strong with this one...

All of the "butchering" is optional. Believe me, the game makes it much easier to set up a berry patch that auto-feeds everything in your base, rather than manually butchering everything.

And... Normal Pokemon is enslaving as well. You're literally catching them and forcing them to fight each other to the brink of death. Just to recycle the rhetoric of the crazies 20-25 years ago. It's akin to dog fighting. You're also a child in Pokemon..

Come on, at least try to make a good argument.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Maybe PETA got to me but it turns my stomach watching people gleefully butcher and enslave Pokemon.

So you gleefully play terrorism stimulator the game?

I'm anti-war and anti-guns, I play a lot of war games and shooters. It's a game.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do people riding horses gross you out too, or relying on dogs to find injured people in accidents? Animals have had jobs with people throughout history.

Do you not fight wolves, attack dogs, dragons, and other animals on any other game you've played?

You don't have to butcher your pals. There is no in game need for it. You have pals, you pet them and feed them and provide for their needs and they help you cut a tree down. Sometimes they don't feel like it and they just don't do it. What's the problem?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah imagine still playing counterstrike on the same 3 maps and guns for 20 years and spend 1000 dollars on a cool knife.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been playing it for a while now, quite fun. It reminded me of tech modpacks that incorporated Pixelmon in Minecraft, although this is much more refined. It has much less of a Pokemon vibe as people give it credit for. Other than mounts, you have no control of what abilities your pal uses, and it is much less focused on rock-paper-scissors and more on the terrain and damage delivery because of its real-time FPS nature.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wonder if it runs good on the steam deck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

30fps on lows from what I remember seeing others post. Allegedly there is a mod to help performance on Deck, too

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Friend of mine joined my server from his steam deck, and was using the deck dock to a 52" TV, said it was running beautifully.

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