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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I made a post about this on combatfootage(NSFL) .This is wayyy worse than the post suggests.

The IDF dressed up as medics and civilians and executed a person lying on a hospital bed. It's a new war-crime world record.

Jeez Christ. War crimes without blinking.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Every time you think these Israeli terrorists can't get any worse they prove to the world that they can reach a new depraved low

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Even given that this was a terror cell actively planning a terrorist attack, this is unjustifiable. If they had the operational access to assassinate them, they also had the power to extract and arrest them. If they had evidence strong enough to compel an extrajudicial killing, then they had evidence to present at trial.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

Why is the most moral army in the world committing war crimes? Does that make them more or less moral?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Assuming the 3 killed were Hamas, this is still a warcrime. You don't bomb hospitals, and you don't send hit squads into hospitals to murder people.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Still assuming those killed were hamas)

No its not - and to whoever calls me anti or pro something stop hiding behind insults. Stick with the events that actually are war crimes - there are enough to go around from both sides.

It is a war crime to attack a hospital being used for purpose. A hospital (and other protected places) lose their protection when they are used for military purposes, including housing combatants, storage of munitions or logistics and command.

What Israel failed miserably at (and I hope those responsible are held to account) is proportional response, as even without protection the response must be proportional and minimize civilian casualties and wider damage. A small hit team that targeted specific military personnel hiding in a hospital is a much more measured response than bombs through the roof.

If they killed non combatants (either civilians or injured, non combat capable combatants) then a different story.

[–] Geobloke@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, one of them was in a wheel chair so yeah they assassinated a non combatant in a hospital

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non combatant doesn't just mean not running around with a rifle shooting things - its ability and conduct.

If im planning an attack, then walk into a hospital im still a combatants - I become a non combatant when I stop, surrender or am no longer capable of engaging due to my ability... out of the fight so to speak. You don't magically become impervious when you walk (or wheeled) in the door then vulnerable when you walk out.

[–] Geobloke@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He was in hospital because shrapnel had severed his spine. In the west bank. You can throw semantics at it, but going by the context I'd put money on him not being actively engaged in combat as he was incapable by your words

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Israel committing war crimes like there's no tomorrow. Accountability needs to be taken.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder if people read beyond the headline, but it's probably too much to ask.

About those assassinated, from that same article:

Hamas confirmed that Jalamneh was one of its members. The Jenin Brigade, which includes a number of Palestinian armed resistance groups, said in a statement that two of the three men were members of Islamic Jihad.

Or is AlJazeera also just Israeli propaganda?

[–] muse@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, I've been told repeatedly Al Jazeera is in fact palestinian propaganda that shouldn't be trusted and that I'm ignorant for having done so. Damned if I do damned if I dont I guess

Also I guess you didn't read beyond the article either. Disguising oneself as a medic is a big ol' frownie face in the war crimes community

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sorry you feel sorry that Hamas and Islamic Jihad lost three terrorists today.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yes, when you're trying to defend the indefensible, this is exactly the kind of pathetic response I'd expect to read. Be better.

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[–] CollisionResistance@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Don't you think it is a little off-brand for the world's most moral army to summarily execute terrorists in West Bank (which Israel illegally occupies), without due process and also, terrorizing civilians in a hospital.

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