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The worst part is how many women are in the MAGA movement. And they don't care.
That's the fun of the "it's not a problem until it happens to me" crowd!
Internalized misogyny is real. When you're absolutely brain dead stupid and have no personality, male validation is extremely powerful. You can get a ton of male validation by appealing to the dumbest ones who would drool at the chance to be in the same room as you.
People downplay that Access Hollywood tape, but he wasn’t joking. He was completely serious. In his mind, he could - and did – literally grab women’s pussies because he thought they’d just let him do it.
Here’s the thing, as an SA survivor, there are several natural reactions to situations like that – fight, flight, or freeze. In close quarters, you often can’t flee, and with a large attacker, you can’t always fight. Freezing is a very common response to sexual assault.
So all these years, when he says ‘they just let you do it’, he’s been describing his victims’ freeze response. You don’t have to be a star for that to be your victim’s reaction. And yet his followers and the media have turned it into a joke.
I think I can speak for many SA survivors when I say that’s disgusting, appalling, and hurtful.
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I don't find it funny at all and have to say my faith in humanity was absolutely crushed (below rock bottom) when he wasn't immediately cast out after the tape came out. My mother (in her 80s) was like "yeah, that's what we're dealing with, son".
It's not locker room talk, it's rapist talk.
It's not locker room talk, it's rapist talk.
100%. Worse, he says ‘they’ let you do it. How many women has he done this to? Obviously more than E Jean. Looking at the hell she’s been put through since coming forward, it’s no wonder his other victims haven’t been willing to come forward.
Trump was a co-defendant along with Epstein in the rape case of a 13 year old girl who dropped the case when herself and her family were threatened with death.
He’s not just a rapist, but a serial rapist.
Statistically, probably dozens of women in his lifetime.
This, sadly, is nothing new. People like this have existed throughout all of human history... evil is deeply woven into the fabric of reality. Goodness is an outlier.
I agree with everything you said except for the last bit. I believe most people are basically good. Unfortunately we tend to see much more of the dregs of society because outrage attracts far more eyeballs than awws, so the world looks much worse than it actually is.
I’ve lived many places and have travelled a lot, and I’ve experienced more violence and hardship than many people, but in my experience, the good still far outweighs the bad.
eta: /c/upliftingnews can help if you’re feeling down about things.
As a dude who's been in plenty of locker rooms... it is indeed "rapist talk". For sure, there's bantering of all sorts (mostly about boobs and dumbshit)... but there ain't nobody in there that's proud to talk like that; Unless they actually mean it and than they sound like a creepy fucking rapist, and nobody's really having fun with the "jokes" anymore.
He's a rapist. And by continuing to open his fat fucking mouth about how that's "fine and whatever", he brings down all men in the process. Fuck that dude, he ain't allowed to be part of the "cool men's club", ya fucking weirdo. Fuck that dude
We’ve understood this forever. What MAGA people all have in common is that they’re terrible people. It’s the seven deadly sins all rolled up into one voting block.
And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.
THERE’S NEVER BEEN A SECRET TO THE PERSON HE IS. HE SAID IT OUT LOUD AND STILL BECAME PRESIDENT.
It’s not like people aren’t listening, it’s that those that vote for him actually think the same way and it makes them proud to hear it when it’s said
Conservative morality isn't based on the things it claims to be.
The foundations are these:
- Social hierarchy is natural and desirable.
- The hierarchy is asserted by selective rule-enforcement
- The game is zero-sum
They literally don't believe that rules should bind high-status people; that's what makes them powerful - and thus admirable - in their eyes.
Rules are only enforced downwards, protecting the strong from the actions of the weak - and violating that principle is the only sin.
That's why they're so hung up on race / gender / sexuality: those things are caste markers to them, and determine the right and proper role for people in their eyes. If someone steps out of their pre-ordained caste, that's violating the hierarchy and eroding the rules that keep society ordered-therefore-safe, and therefore inherently immoral to them.
Every time people post another scoop on Trump getting away with shit, it just affirms his kingly, even godly status in their eyes.
The only thing that can bring him down is defeat and failure, being subjected to rules and forced to submit to them, showing him to be low-status and thus not admirable.
The book Fascism Today: What It Is and How to End It (excerpts) is fantastic to explain this new fascism and provides a very useful new definition: “Inequality through mythological and essentialized identity”
Damn thank you for introducing me to this site, like libgen but way better (also including libgen)!
That's why they're so hung up on race / gender / sexuality: those things are caste markers to them, and determine the right and proper role for people in their eyes. If someone steps out of their pre-ordained caste, that's violating the hierarchy and eroding the rules that keep society ordered-therefore-safe, and therefore inherently immoral to them.
You've nailed it. Also, if people start to realise these labels aren't as fixed they may naturally extend those conclusions to other arbitrary markers - like class and wealth.
After someone said "So, who cares? He's the president" I decided to cut all contact and never speak to them again.
They know, they don't care. The cruelty is always the point.
MAGA = Bad Humans.
You really are a shit person if you support this trash. No excuses, nothing can justify it, you're just a piece of shit.
MAGA sees women as property. 2nd class citizens. Subhuman. They are to be possessed and done with as you please. The primary tenet of conservatism is that natural hierarchies exist. Conservatives believe men are inherently "better" than women. Period.
His fascist supporters love it, because it puts women "in their place" and they want to return to a time (not too long ago) when all of society swept abusive misogyny under the rug.
I mean, why else would they constantly demonize feminism?
He was elected despite being on tape saying "grab em by the pussy, you can do anything"
They aren't going to start caring about women suddenly. Women are just property to the base and they are expected to vote according to their owners. At least that's what it looks like!
They all abuse women…. It’s the MAGA way.
It's not really a surprise coming from the party of hate filled losers, incels and criminals. I expect no less and hope that voters remember come election time. It is long past due to send the Republicans back to under the rocks from which they came
It's a feature. Better, it's a bonus. And to be clear it's not limited to the conservative men, bc conservative women think this way too.
It's not even that they don't care; they actually like it, presumably because it legitimizes what they also already do.
Because if they investigate him, they'd have to investigate all of them.
Misogyny Arouses GOP Arseholes.
Fascism. They fundamentally believe that inequality based on inherent identity is morally correct. And identity based on some myth. That is why capitalism, science denial to further deregulation, blind or fanatical faith and fascism work so well together.
"It's an American ideal that we treat women with respect. Also, TRUMP THAT BITCH"
Y'all have a serious problem accepting the fact that most people are, in fact, evil, and it shows.
It's one thing to accept the fact that people are capable of terrible, evil things, and a totally different thing to encourage said behavior for political and financial gain.
Encouraging said behavior is evidence that humans are inherently evil, not a point against it.