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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget Fascism based on religion.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel and America are trying to wrestle for that one, too

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel's got us beat by a lot, man. In the US we have grasps for religious power (some successful) but it doesn't describe everyone in government

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go to Utah. The Mormon church has a lot more influence on politics, than people want to admit?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Ohh I'm very aware of SLC. I'm speaking of the country as a whole, though

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There sadly are even more countries that are completely under control of religious leaders. Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, .... Vatican City (they even have something like their own military).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's insane how far the Vatican has fallen. It's just so religious nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The Abraham Wars

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I missed the "mysticism and spirituality" period. Twenty years ago I knew India for cows, castes, and crap in the rivers.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You may be too young for Depak Chopra.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

He specifically said he thought of it as being full of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Idk how the general public viewed India 40 years ago, but from my vague understanding of their modern history they've always been known for a cruel caste system resulting in poverty and disease, which was massaged by the English introducing more widespread transportation and education but castes and disparity still persists after several revolutions. Don't get me wrong, the English were cruel and apathetic, but clearly the locals learned a lot from them in good and bad ways both.

I recently learned about CPI parties of India but they also ingrain religion into their politics? That sounds like one step forward two steps back. I'd love to see more Indian politics and international news in the news and politics communities on Lemmy, sounds like a lot is going on over there and I'm getting real sick of hearing about Taylor Swift's jet and Biden's Cookies.

Oh and also, skin whitening cream is pretty fucked imo. I saw a story awhile back where a famous light skinned actress played an ethnic minority role where they blackfaced and lived in filth, clearly something is wrong there.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

Skin whitening is not unlike tanning in the west, an indication of status/wealth. In India lighter skin shows you don't need to work outside. In the west tan skin shows you can take vacations.

And in both cases people fake it with creams and tanning salons. And it becomes so entrenched people don't realize why they are actually doing it. Just like makeup and clothing choices.

Yes, there are problematic racial undertones...and in general is definitely fucked up...but I think it's more complicated than just a race thing. I mean, people in the West are literally exposing themselves to cancer causing UV to fake the look of having recently taken a trip to Hawaii or whatever, which is also kinda fucked up.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the bright side, you need a tech tutorial, they've got your back.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but it's often in the form of a YouTube video with narration that's not always so easy to understand. I miss written tutorials, but most of the good ones I find these days tend to come from Central/Eastern European forum posts.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany f*d up so bad we're still using them as a meme after most of a century. Never go full Germany.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I guess Germany after the 30's (and maybe even after 1919), France after the whole Revolution and Napoleon thing, the UK after voting to KEKW their economy, Norway after being ruled by Sweden... The list probably goes on

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Which french revolution? ;) There's lots of people who saw and still see the whole french revolution thing as a net positive. The UK has never had a good proper revolution and it shows.

Napoleon did a lot of things, but those bad things were in line with the absolutist rulers from before the revolution, he just happened to be more successful at it. But he also did many good things during his rule. Fe, the Napoleonic code was hugely influential worldwide and a major change for the good. 2 centuries later it doesn't hold up as well in the countries that still use the same justice system, but for it's time, it was really good. Overall, I'd say Napoleon still has a stellar reputation, unlike India.

How was Norway worse after they last gained independence from Sweden?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is insanely relevant to me right now. I left India in 2004 and I am there right now for my cousins wedding. I legit hate it everywhere I look. Love my family, but idk if I want to come back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Hello unkill

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

4chan is gonna know the world through the perspective of an average 4chan user.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Rapists and shit being India's image is far, far from being exclusive to anons on 4chan...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Also the land of abhorrent javascript horrors.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Internet exposed that every or almost every country is a class system with pedo rapists in charge.

The shit river is a cherry but all countries are a shit pie.

In southern US there people without plumbing or other towns have poluted water piped to low peasants.

So rich, so powerful....

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The population of people in the US with no / seriously tainted water is a blip compared to the population on the yamuna or ganges rivers.

It's a disservice to those folks to even remotely compare their experience to those in north America.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Thought to myself "San Francisco isnt a country"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mysticism and spirituality

You mean scammers like Sadhguru and Deepak Chopra?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Never forget the Designated Shitting Streets

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

With the exception of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Islam is currently responsible for a majority of the war happening in the world and has been for the last two decades.

The world would be a better place without Islam.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did you comment on the wrong post? What does Islam have to do with OP?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Current Indian government is full of Hindu ethnofasicists that are deeply anti-islam.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Plenty of people will grab literally any opportunity and quite a few non-opportunities to rant. I'm a freaking edgelord atheist myself, but some of it is just embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Probably a Hindu nationalist

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In places destabilized by colonialists…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Bring back the Ottoman and the Mughal empires!

Most countries got a lot more stable under colonialism. Its only after they left they went back to destability and genocide.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, things are pretty stable when you ruthlessly crush dissent

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be frank, google's reputation fall pretty significantly in the last 25 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So we switched from exotic fetichizing orientalism toward casual racism? Sounds like two pieces of the same coin.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why the downvotes? You're 100% right. Westerners absolutely fetishize India over its perceived mysticism. And there's no shortage now of anti-Indian discrimination in North America.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah things are pretty bad here. People lack even basic civic sense. I've always felt like an outsider.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I mean it took India two decades, and even then it isn't all of their reputation. It took Israel 4 months.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who did Israel have a good reputation with before 2023? Politicians?

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