This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?
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Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. "there are no civilians in Gaza", "Hamas is ISIS", "Hamas wants to murder all jews", etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.
There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.
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Religion
It's part of Israel's propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational "War on Terror" sentiments in people who haven't looked into it that deeply.
In reality, they're dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.
Some of them are Kahanists but I don't think religion figures into their motives as a wider group except for scapegoating purposes.
Fascism
You just need to convince people that the "innocent people" are not people
Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
They think Palestinians are subhuman. Israel has become the evil it once fled.
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A lot of people's hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.
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75 years of being attacked leads to some fucked up thinking. Most Israelis, like most Palestinians know people who have been victims of violence repeatedly. Their mindsets aren't the same as those in the West with the safety and security provided by border stability. Which is why it's so interesting seeing the Western ideals being pushed on this conflict. Those ravers should be jailed though, they're contradicting the ICJ order. Whether it's the Israeli government or not, the order was to enable the provision of aid and that means clearing obstacles.
I think they may be viewing it as more of an act of defiance and retribution for the rave hamas murdered all those innocent people at. If you view it as an isolated thing happening during a “war” then it really makes no sense.
It makes no sense anyway. Hamas murdered innocent people so they want to ...murder more innocent people.
It makes perfect sense. It's not constructive, effective or helping to move towards any kind of resolution of this conflict, but on a personal level, it does make sense.
I think, as far as regular people go, at this stage both sides in the conflict are primarily motivated by revenge. We can dress it all up with fancy words of occupation, injustice, national self defense or whatever your chosen flavor of ideology is in this conflict. But for regular everyday people in the region the primary reason why they want to see the other regular people die is revenge.
With that logic doesn't that makes hamas targeting Israel civilians makes perfect sense since they are living under colonization?
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@chillhelm I guess. There are probably plenty of ordinary humans who empathise with other civilians there too, it's just we don't hear so much about those.
I knew a woman whose husband was held prisoner by the Axis during WWII Her response was to go every weekend to a POW camp of "enemy" soldiers and bring them food, chocolate etc, since they were in the same situation as her husband. That, is also part of human nature, just not the side the war monger$ like to encourage.
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5% of the population is psychopathic. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even regular people are capable of great evil, especially in service to their religion.
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It's only a genocide if the west disagrees with it.
All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.
Bad people will do bad things, sure, but if you want good people to do bad things, you need religion.
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A bunch of terrorists
The media want us to believe that the Problem with Israel is the far right government, while in reality it is the whole fucking Nation.
I have known a number of actual Israelis. The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.
This is definitely the MAGA side.
The polls show that Israelis still overwhelmingly support what's happening in Gaza.
They seem to believe that the only way to live in peace is to kill all Arabs.
The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.
Problem is what do we define "peaceful lives". You and I think it just means being able to go about our daily lives and just that, but Israelis have been drowning in propaganda. It's like saying "Americans just want peaceful lives right after 9/11/" Sure, but what they think will get them their peaceful lives is an armed invasion and genocide. It was a popular enough view to get Bush reelected.
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I suspect every country has their MAGA. And the problem is when it gets to big.
I think when people feel survival precarity, its easy to get into their head they have to hoard what they got from the Others.
That figured pretty largely into the story of Sodom, it didn't end well, albeit by deus ex machina.
The problem also exists when the middle is content, asleep, or paid off.
Can anyone provide further information?
Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza
TLDR: According to Israelis all Palestinians are Hamas so they're justified in killing them through starvation.
It seem to me like it's a thing that zionists have done more than once?
The New Arab - Israelis dance, camp out at Gaza crossing while blocking aid for Palestinians
Yeah all I see is a group of people dancing next to a street...
Edit: to the down voters, I was merely describing the information that was available in this thread at the time, which was none except the video. Now that OP has provided sourcing that supported the claims in the title, I am satisfied. Don't trust everything you see on the Internet, unless there is a context that support what is claimed is what I am saying.
Yeah, the article from the BBC should have been posted alongside the video, rather than someone linking it 4 hours after the initial post.
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A "rave" in the barest sense of the word. That's got to be the shittiest "rave" I've ever seen in my life, and I was barely coherent or intelligible through most of them.
Hamas killed festival goers! The festival goers:
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