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Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I straight up don't understand the appeal of a bigger userbase here. More users isn't inherently better, and will definitely introduce more issues and problem users that will tax our still developing and somewhat fragile platform. Wanting that "instantly" is just asking for the collapse of Lemmy, imo.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It will help more niche communities grow. I left reddit, generally don't miss it. I also give zero shits about tech, programming and Linux. I am a sports fan though, big NBA fan. There's just zero conversation on those instances. I would like to see the user base grow so I can engage some conversations about those interests. I sure as shit ain't going outside and making friends lol

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Big this.

I am still interested in the mentioned tech, programming ad linux communities but the biggest issue is definitely smaller communities lacking in numbers. But I see more and more users and conversations on here over time. It has definitely increased since I joined. Hopefully we'll see the smaller communities grow as well.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lemmy's biggest weakness right now is a slow drip feed of content. After blocking all of the sports communities and instances in languages I don't speak, I'm left with the following:

  • News
  • A bunch of meme communities that might as well be interchangeable with one another
  • Memes about a TV show I don't watch
  • Newspaper comics
  • Animal pictures
  • Way too much vanilla porn

None of this is bad content per say, but it doesn't capture what I loved about reddit before they ruined it. Reddit was a place where even the most niche of niche topics had a space that you could check in on every day. Obscure anime, unusual collections, diy showcases, you name it. Cultivating a culture that produces produces such specific groups requires enough people to form them. In a group of 100 random people, the number of them who are into Ginga Nagareboshi Gin (look it up) is going to be quite low, but that number increases the more people you include in the sample size and sooner or later you have a subreddit for Ginga fans. That was why Reddit was special to me, and that is what's keeping Lemmy from reaching that high for me.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gatekeeping like this will kill lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not "gatekeeping". Lemmy can and will grow fine on it's own. That will be great. Campaigning to increases the user base by 500x "instantly" will just cause problems. I get people want more content, but wanting this platform to be the new Reddit overnight is simply unrealistic and frankly dangerous for the site. The platform maintained by volunteers, not a corporation, and it is regularly facing problems that it already struggles to deal with effectively. A Reddit sized userbase would just destroy Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Content here sucks ass. It's 95% bitching about politics.

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[–] ChillDude69 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

More users = more lifetime, for the platform. At the current level, I estimate that this platform will last about two years. Maybe three. Less, if some kind of significant problem occurs.

You're right that the instant part could be dangerous. That could be the significant problem I just mentioned. But otherwise, Lemmy needs more users, desperately. All internet things have to grow or die. You can wish that wasn't a fact, but it will remain a fact.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was already 3 years old when the API fiasco started. It didn't need the users merely to survive.

But in the context of the meme, more users means more content which Is a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Grow or die". What a bunch of corporate bs. And throwing out made up "lifetimes" doesn't lend you the legitimacy you think it does.

Lemmy doesn't "desperately need" more users. What it needs is less of this nonsense.

[–] ChillDude69 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but I'm simply correct about this. If you come in here in about a year's time, and there haven't been any new posts in three weeks, you WILL leave the platform, too.

You won't intend to. You won't do it out of spite. You'll just keep checking for new posts, less and less frequently, until you eventually give up.

Growth is THE ONLY WAY to prevent that situation. Does that mean Lemmy has to "go corporate" and start monetizing everything? No. Does that mean Lemmy has to become as huge as Reddit? No. I don't want that. I don't want this place to become so big that it inevitably repeats all the mistakes that Reddit made, over the years.

But the Lemmy/Fediverse platform absolutely does have to grow larger than this, in order to become a permanent, secure thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Feel free to explain why that "will" happen without infinite growth.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it depends entirely on your audience if your doing a yt kids channel sure because they grow up but if your targeting loyal users u don't really need to

[–] ChillDude69 6 points 1 year ago

targeting loyal users

There IS still a minimum number of them that you need, in order to truly make the community secure against rotting away, naturally.

As I explained to someone else, if you come in here one day, and you realize that it's been three weeks since you've seen a new post, you WILL eventually stop coming back to check. And then the few people who remain will also stop interacting with the platform. And it will die.

I don't know the exact number of people that the particular community (or the Fediverse, in general) needs to be permanently viable, but it's somewhere between 20 and 100 times more people than we currently have. Maybe more.

That's not up for debate. It's simply a cold, hard fact. You don't have to like it, but it's not optional.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Most communities on Reddit barely have any content. While Lemmy will never have the user base of Reddit, some more engagement would be great.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] ChillDude69 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

As they occasionally do.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bold of you to assume those cretins will leave their circle jerk of a platform.

[–] ChillDude69 32 points 1 year ago

You really believe they'll stay, after you can't show pussy anymore?

Okay. You bet on that, if you want.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I need to find me some good gay NSFW communities

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The king 👀

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

This is why I always do my duty and upvote and support all of the porn content, especially OC.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realize that would literally cause a hug of death?

[–] ChillDude69 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What part of "brace yourselves" are some of y'all not getting?

I am literally acknowledging that it's not an unalloyed benefit that's on the horizon, here.

But I also am not in control of what Reddit is about to do.

(edit: but just like with Winter/war coming, in GoT, you can also benefit from a crazy-ass situation)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Wishful thinking🤣

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We don’t need more simps here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

people like dicks and titties, what's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Don't want any new competition huh?

King Simp confirmed.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All immediately invest in lemmy stock!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This is the year of Linux on the desktop, and that is good for Bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think coomers would sooner go to twitter for their porn before here

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why though? Twitter is almost completely inaccessible outside of login and nitter was shut down, it's horrendous for nsfw engagement now

You'd have better luck thirstposting on insta or tiktok

[–] ChillDude69 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Also, good luck searching, bookmarking, filtering, sorting posts, organizing actual communities, etc. The whole methodology of the platform basically disallows all those things.

Lemmy is a replacement for Reddit. That's straight-up what it is. That's why we're here. Even if TwiX hadn't become evil and insane, because of its insane master, it still wouldn't be any kind of replacement for Reddit. Especially the NSFW Reddit communities.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

also corposhit is increasingly not useful for literally anything

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The average coomer that would lurk on a reddit porn sub probably doesn't know nitter exists. If they already made a reddit account just for porn, they'd do the same on twitter, insta, fucking google+, any of the most popular options. Most couldn't care less about privacy beyond incognito. All they want is the porn, and they'll do the bare minimum to get it

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Game of Phones

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think the dump part of the pump and dump will happen the second insiders can sell. Seems on brand.

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