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[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shooting at desperate prisoners for fun is something the Nazi's used to do.

Fuck israel.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The mask has come off this disgusting colony.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Been off since at least 75 years but I guess it's more off now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they started out by killing entire villages to take their houses. The whole Zionist project was built on blood.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

its never been livestreamed like this though. people are seeing this happen in real-time. instead of taking days to even years to reach people, its getting to us in our hand in minutes if not seconds.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

its been genocide since day one of the zionist project

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Biden is really going to let Trump become president again because he won't take serious action.

The US is literally the reason the UN can't do anything.

All you had to do was not be pro genocide Biden. It's such a low fucking bar and that geriatric fuck just can't meet it.

And whether Biden wins or loses, millions will suffer because he was the only other option than trump we were allowed to have.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I watched Jon Stewarts piece about Israel Palestine and he joked about how the UN can't get anything done with absolutely no mention that it is everyone voting for a ceasefire and the USA voting to veto everything.

It isn't the UN that is doing nothing, it is the veto rules that allows the USA and other countries to throw out the collective good in order to protect empire.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Weird...

I remember him mentioning it in both his recent episodes.

Pretty sure he even mentioned how when the US vetos something like this, we always send a Black person to do the veto. But that bit might have been from somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I've been trying to tell people for almost two decades: the UN isn't inherently ineffective, but the Big 5 makes it so by vetoing almost every important resolution.

If we take away that veto and grant the UN real enforcement power, it could make the world a much better place for the vast majority of humanity.

The 5 and the billionaires whose interests align with them would never permit such justice, though 😮‍💨

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your comment was an adorable attempt at sowing division. If you're really prepared to not vote and let Trump win because you don't like Biden's messaging, that's a you problem (and by extension, becomes everyone else's problem too).

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With all due respect, which is none, fuck off with that false dichotomy.

They didn't say that they weren't going to vote, they said that they were worried that Biden will lose because he's doing things that people hate and refusing to do things that people need.

It's the job of a politician to earn votes. It's not the job of voters to meekly fall in line as long as the other candidate is worse.

Yours is the kind of condescending ideological cowardice that got us to this awful point in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's the job of a politician to earn votes. It's not the job of voters to meekly fall in line as long as the other candidate is worse.

And that's the core of it right there. Why would I vote for someone who has done nothing to earn my vote?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

We just saw grassroots Muslims & allies in Michigan organize a 13% protest vote of ‘Undecided’ in the state’s Democratic primary. They aren’t alt-right trolls shitposting hot takes, that is a lot of real people who are absolutely FURIOUS that an administration they supported in 2020 has taken so little actual action on this matter

I also completely disagree that a personal voting choice should be seen as the ‘bad guy’ when the DNC did all it could to stifle challengers to Biden. Get angry at them and their political duopoly, not voters with conviction

If Biden came out and said “As a devout Catholic I cannot morally support abortion, I will not work to restore Roe v Wade protections” he would be rightly criticized heavily, and people would likely choose to note vote based on that

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

don’t like Biden’s messaging

but that message is he's not willing to call a permanent unconditional ceasefire and is willing to let more children die. am i supposed to like that message?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, like 99% of Americans don't care about Gaza enough to not vote for Biden over Trump. The internet echo chamber has warped your sense of what normal people actually care about.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Uh... No? Polls have consistently shown that Biden is losing younger voters over this issue. And let's not forget that there are multiple swing states (Michigan is just the most famous one) where losing Muslim votes is enough to cost Biden the state. Enough Americans care about Gaza to cost Biden the election.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah bro...

The only reason to be upset with Biden is his support of Israel's genocide...

/s

There's also:

  1. What he wants to do with our border

  2. Pretending "the economy" is more about billionaires wealth and average Americans aren't important

  3. Record breaking fossil fuels production

  4. Just ignoring the healthcare crisis

And a shit ton of other things.

Supporting Israel could very well be all you care about, but lots of people aren't that simple.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump is worse on all of those issues, plus more.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you get to pick between no food, or half enough food to survive...

How much effort would you put in to starve to death slower?

Running a bad candidate depresses turnout. And depressed turnout is the only way Republicans win.

Running Joe Biden is the biggest factor that helps Trump's chances of winning, and there's zero fucking reason we're handing it to him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of people will choose half food for the chance to live until more food is available. There is not another candidate from the Dems that has the national recognition as Biden, or the successes that Biden should be doing a better job of selling, that could take his place at this point in time.

Yes, I would rather they ran someone else. But with half the voting population all in on wish.com Hitler it is necessary to eat half the food now and hope for a better candidate next time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except we only get a presidential election every four years, and not everyone will still be alive then

That's not even part of the starvation example.

Literally people you're asking to pick the lesser evil right now will die because of that lesser evil before the 2028 election.

Maybe you're upper middle class and it's not a big deal.

Congrats, you're a very small percentage of Americans and the total votes Biden needs to win.

If you want to help Biden, try having some empathy for the less fortunate and start screaming your head off at the Dem party while there's time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should absolutely give Biden grief up until November when we need to grit our teeth and accept aomething less than perfection to vote against the Republicans who are worse on every single topic.

It isn't like Biden is the only Democrat who is supporting Israel. How many Dems are passing the funding legislation that Biden signs? Who are they going to put up instead of him that opposes Israel?

Nobody.

Biden is the best that the party can put forth right now, and we should give him grief to get him to change. The action agsinst Biden in the primaries is great!

But come November it will be critical to vote against Trump, and a vote for anything other than a Democrat is a vote for Trump because of our stupid voting system.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

C'mon man...

The DNC blacklists companies for working on primary campaigns against House incumbents...

They straight up removed delegates from the first state primary because in the last two elections they picked progressives over party favorites...

"Just vote in the primaries" is about a decade outdated at the point.

I'll probably still vote D in the general, just like I've held my nose to do in all but a single general election. 08 Obama I was actually hype to vote D, and we flipped a bunch of red states the DNC gave up on

But not everyone will this year, and Biden doesn't have a lot of breathing room.

The best thing you can do to prevent trump from winning is do anything you can think of to drag Biden to the left.

Just shutting up and voting Biden isn't enough, he's too weak of a candidate to expect that to work again.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop letting perfect being they enemy of good enough. This line of thinking you're engaging in will only accelerate Trump's victory. Unless the finality of the United States is your goal, you may want to come up with a more apt analogy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if there wasn't enough hatred towards USA from the Middle East, these actions are showing seeds of hatred towards USA for generations to come. Which can be easily radicalized in the future.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That's why it's always bullshit that we "need" a close ally there.

We dont. Especially when that "ally" just constantly instigates conflict then drags us into it to back them up.

If we weren't propping up Israel and going after oil, most people in the Middle East wouldn't give two shits about the West.

And without the instability it all causes, there'd be less far right religious extremists running shit. And everyone's lives would be better off

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know how much of the news to believe, but I'm not really on board with all this indiscriminate killing.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been to Israel a number of times and have several good friends there. I don't know what to do, really. They would be the ones protesting against Netanyahu, rather than the ones raving in the way of an aid convoy.

The first thing I said after the attacks last October, other than "are my friends okay", was literally "fuck, the response is going to be completely disproportionate". They've got a fucking horrible government and there's an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

I'm not an antisemite - my best friends genuinely are Jewish, that's not a smokescreen. I've been shown more kindness by Jews in my life than by my own family. But I'd say, on balance, I am anti those particular semites. And I think a large percentage of Jews also are. I know my friends will casually say things about the ultra-orthodox community that I definitely can't repeat.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More Jews live outside Israel than in Israel. Being against the Israeli government doesn't make you an antisemite.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’ve got a fucking horrible government and there’s an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

Let me just say: It's not an undercurrent. The right wing in Israel has been dominant for a long time and is growing. I understand you want to distinguish yourself from Antisemites, but their government is accurately representing their constituents. It's just that more than half their constituents see nothing wrong with genociding Muslims for Lebensraum.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The "response" has been disproportionate for 60+ years.

At what point are they no longer "responding" and move on to become the aggressors? Because the balance of power there shifted a very long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really on board with all this indiscriminate killing

VERY controversial opinion! It's a good thing this is a safe space where saying such things won't cost you your livelihood!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not really on board with killing so many children and starving 2.4 million people to death.

Does that make me antisemitic?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not according to sane people, no. According to unhinged mecha-zionists on the other hand..

Ironically, equating the actions of the Israeli government with all of Jewdom is itself EXTREMELY antisemitic.

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