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lesser of two evils (lemmy.ca)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 year ago (7 children)

21 day old account. Most posts are about not voting in the election to support Palestine. While what's happening in Gaza is genocide, this account smells like a Russian shill trying to spread FUD in the form of memes. The key part of diplomacy is not running around telling everyone what's being discussed in private. We shouldn't hear about potential deals until they are decided on. If Trump wins, he'll do the same thing Israel is currently doing to eliminate Hamas - which is to go through the Palestinian people.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After you wrote this comment, OP made a concern troll post on the Men's Liberation community.

You were totally on point about the FUD thing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah... I'm only surprised that they shifted tactics so quickly. Fear, Unrest, and Doubt are the key tactics in Russian Disinfo campaigns. There's an old axiom: If someone is trying to make you feel strongly about something, then they are trying to sell you something. In this case, OP Is trying to piss people off in order to convince them of propaganda and Russian talking points.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it says don't JUST vote. that means vote and then do more. your accusation of shilling is disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling others shill is like the go-to accusation these days

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you really expect the people who call everybody they disagree with a shill to be able to read?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Biden listens more then does popular things, the effect won't be in Putin's interest. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Biden needs to pull voters from Trump.

There are two types of Democrat voters today. Those who will suck it up and vote for him because he's not trump, and those who will find some excuse to not vote for him because he's not perfect. If he does the right thing for Palestine, they'll complain it wasn't fast enough, or they'll complain about his stance on marijuana, or on the environment, or on some other random thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Not perfect" uhh that's incredibly hyperbolic. A piece of cheese could do just as well as Biden has as president. He's appealed to the right and the banks far more than to the left at a time when issues like those you mentioned desperately need to be addressed ASAP. He's made little strides in the right direction but if you look deeply into any of his policies they're more posturing than anything. I've said it here before but in a reasonable world he'd be running as a Republican. The left can and should disown him given his history, connections and actions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is a republican.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's a Democrat, thus more than 50% Republican.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You are misunderstanding online discussions. Critiques of Biden's stances on issues like marijuana, comes from a place of trying to help Biden win. Only trolls would claim they stopped voting for Democrats because they didn't legalize weed. "As a gay black man" type posters.

Genocide is different. Blaming progressive voters because they refuse to arm a genocide is a twisted thing to do. And people online need to realize how they are only making things worse with this genocide complicity.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Your post history is 100% "Democrats bad," so if anything, this post is an exception and not the rule. I can ignore the bit about Russia and their point stands even stronger.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Not everyone. But it certainly seems like you are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I voted Uncommitted, if not voting for a genocider is really gonna get Trump elected maybe Biden should start listening to someone other than the demonic Beau Biden lookalikes running around the oval office.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm glad you voted your heart in the primary. But I also really hope you are smart enough to vote him in the general.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That really depends on if the Democrats are actually ride or die on this whole genocide thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Democrats are more likely to waver on the Palestinian genocide then the Republicans. But even assuming that they have the exact same positions, Republicans still have measurably worse positions on pretty much everything else.

I enjoy enough privilege to not be troubled by Republican policies, but many of my comrades do not enjoy that same privilege. I vote on their behalf too.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats are not supporting genocide no matter how you try and sell it to people. It needs to stop.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Trump wins, he’ll do the same thing Israel is currently doing to eliminate Hamas - which is to go through the Palestinian people.

You mean... the same thing that is happening right now under a Dem regime?

Say it isn't so!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He'll also take your right to vote away forever... So I mean it won't matter anymore...

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I don't get this meme.

Do both, vote for the lesser evil and demand change by protesting. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts. You are definitely not going to get change by not voting, all you are doing is allowing the more evil to win and prevent you from protesting ever again.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well it's don't just vote for the lesser of two evils...
but i don't remember anyone saying biden was the only thing needed to stop the arming of israel...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said that.

Biden can solely stop the arming of israel by declaring they are committing human rights violations which would prevent arms exports.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Do you honestly think people haven’t noticed that your entire account is nothing but anti-Biden rhetoric?

You might want to pepper your comments with some authentic sounding *bOtH siDeS” rhetoric if you really want to sound believable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Who is the current president right now, Donald Trump?

Is Donald Trump going to stop Joe Biden being complicit in Genocide?

And what you're saying is not even true I have plenty criticized Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure anyone can see what I’m saying for themselves. But whatever you want to thing.

It’s still a free country.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Yes people that can see that Biden is the one complicit in Genocide.

It's like DNC voters have turned into the 2016 MAGA cult, purely voting for Biden no matter what he does.

Biden is supposed to not be the Fascist Genocide guy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That guy is probably a bot

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got a bunch of these tagged as Russian Shills. They love it when i point that out 🥰

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except that the lesser evil takes your vote as explicit support of everything they're doing, and will claim it as a clear mandate, we'd like to stop but our hands are tied the voters wanted this.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

And then other way to look at it is that by not voting, you’re saying you’re completely fine with the choices and are willing to allow others to chose for you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that is another way. The wrong one.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Start putting some pressure on Biden so he will work for that vote. He still has a few months of Genocide to go before the election.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

… and how?

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