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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oculus could have been great, it's a shame that Meta metastasized and destroyed them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Yes. I was going to get one and instantly changed my mind when it was purchased by Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yep, instantly got crappier when it switched from oculus to Facebook. Maybe my memory is failing, but I thought I recall switching from oculus to Facebook and then recently from Facebook to meta account. Shitier and Shitier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember being excited about oculus when they started developing their headsets. Then I heard Facebook bought them, and the first thing Zuckerbot had to say about it was how excited he was to develop Virtual Reality advertisements. I have never lost as much interest in a product as quickly before or since.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sacrifice might still end up being worth something as Facebook subsidised so much of the cost of the hardware in the push that they ended up selling over 20 million headsets introducing VR to a huge new audience. If that actually translates to long term VR users or fizzles down as a one-off curiosity we shall see in the coming years when those people are up for an upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

One could argue that someone other than Facebook/Meta could have done better but I guess we'll never know for sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I know! Oculus would have been great at it! lol

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Gee. Remember the last time Meta lied about this sort of thing? I remember.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/393371/oculus-vr-headsets-will-soon-require-a-facebook-account.html

When Meta bought Oculus, I boxed up my OG Rift and threw it in the basement, and bought a Reverb G2. I'd rather be tied to a dead platform (WMR) than Meta. Fuck Meta, and fuck Facebook. Don't buy their products, don't give them your data, don't give them a dime.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Oculus went from neutral-leaning-positive in my mind to not-worth-consideration as soon as FB bought it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Meta bought Oculus, I boxed up my OG Quest and threw it in the basement,

Meta (at the time it was still just named Facebook) bought Oculus before they ever released a retail product. Facebook bought them between the release of the original dev kit on Kickstarter and the dk2 in 2014. They had already been owned by Facebook for 2 years when the first Retail Rift came out in 2016. The first Quest didn't come out until 2019, 5 years after Facebook/Meta bought Oculus.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For the story to make sense, I'm guessing that the person you're responding to meant OG Oculus or OG Rift as in the development kit.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Feel the hate. Let it flow through you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the Reverb G2 will be junk when WMR is removed from Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'd doubt it. There are already open source projects to make it (and other similar headsets) work without WMR including on Linux, and it's likely you'll be able to shoehorn and install the final release of WMR back into Windows manually just like you can with all kinds of other legacy Microsoft stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How is this legal? Feels ridiculous to lose games I paid for just because I didn't migrate my account. Same with the Microsoft minecraft account migration. When I bought my CV1 there was the promise that I would not need a facebook account.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't need a facebook account a meta account was available as an alternative. That's great right? Much better!!!

I don't know if meta accounts still exist... The whole migration was a huge mess. The oculus brand was much cooler. I wouldn't have bought my oculus quest 1 if it had been a facebook product back then.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't need a facebook account a meta account was available as an alternative. That's great right? Much better!!!

Actually yes. The problem with needing a Facebook account was that it was part of an unrelated service (social network, messenger, etc.) that you couldn't separate. Meta accounts are separate accounts for VR only, much like the previous Oculus accounts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me think...

It really is better.

I don't trust them not to associate these accounts together with Facebook accounts internally. But that's a bit conspiracyish.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Well considering they basically did just that with Instagram and WhatsApp, it wouldn't be surprising if they did.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Facebook has owned oculus since before the CV1, but I agree it was much less intergrated and still felt like a separate brand. I'm definitely biased as fuck, but "oculus" is infinitely better than "meta". Much better sounding name. I just made a meta account to migrate my oculus account, but I can't find any way to do it on PC without a quest. I don't have a quest, so I guess I'm fucked?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why I buy physical or steam, even though steam is a copout lol. Steam has never let me down

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I wish I bought all my VR games from steam, but I bought a few from oculus when I first bought the headset. Also some games are oculus exclusive :/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

How do I even migrate??? I can't figure it out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was playing Minecraft on and off since the alpha, and refused to upgrade to Microsoft account. I bought computer lego, not a Microsoft tracking app.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have simply chosen not to own an Oculus Rift.

Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a great product, just not well managed by a trustworthy company. I worked at target back in the day when the Quest 2 was around and I got one brand new for about $220 after employee discounts and gift card offers.

It's a shame to see it change over time, but damn is the price accessible compared to $800+ headsets at the time. You gotta admit it really lowered the bar for entry for VR seeing how it's now also 40% of SteamVR users.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Same. Lost all interest when Palmer sold out to Zuck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm holding out for an Index 2 but Valve really doesn't seem to be in any rush

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if their next hardware product was a standalone portable VR headset. Here’s some info to back it up: https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-working-on-vr-steam-deckard-oled/

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is why I never bought an oculus. I don't trust that dirt bag company.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I bought a cv1 when it was just Oculus.

I'm not very fond of the later developments.

I did the migration though, because it's not like I have a choice, and the damn thing still has no Linux support.

Maybe I'll switch to something else when I rebuild my machine when all the construction work is done here and I finally have an office and a proper network again. Getting really tired of my laptop's tiny screen.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

For a couple years now, I've only had an old PSVR. It's obviously limited, has quite low res and is only usable for a few games on my PS4, but hey, it was my entry point to VR anyway, and it's already pretty fun.

I know at some point I will get a PC VR set, if only to get more out of it. And I already know I am ready to pay significantly more for it not to be meta. I don't care if they pretend their accounts are separate, I don't trust them and I want nothing to do with them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I didn't migrate and abandoned anything Meta, I view this as an absolute win! Saved me the time hah

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yep. I was actually seriously thinking of getting a MQ2 or 3 in January, but knowing that Meta could just decide to brick it overnight meant I held off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anyone else read it is “Occultus?” or is it just me?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't get the angry comments... Oculus 1 only require an email address, because people didn't want to have to link their oculus account with their Facebook account.

...I don't know about Oculus 2, but the article is saying that Oculus 3 only requires a Meta account... It's not saying it has to be linked to your Facebook account.

Your account will just switch from being with Oculus, to being with Meta... It doesn't say anything about this suddenly linking your Facebook account to your Oculus/Meta account.

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