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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, corporate executives SHOULD be on food stamps. They should earn well below minimum wage.

If you're not passionate about upper level management get the fuck out.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Nice now do landlords

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I am sure she is willing to be the one to take the unlivable wage then?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Oh hey princess privilege has an opinion on the poors.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Robots. That's how.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Maybe these terms mean something different to y'all but in NZ Living Wage is considerably higher than the minimum wage. And you definitely can live on minimum wage, but not well. I'd definitely expect making icecreams to be a minimum wage job. For reference NZ minimum wage is $23.15 ($14.25 US) Living wage is $26 ($16.01 US) . What's a US living wage?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Didn't even explain. Keep them struggling just because.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think anyone says that the DQ person needs to be able to afford a standard of living that’s luxurious, but what they’re saying is that everyone needs to be able to afford basic necessities (shelter, food, healthcare, education etc.).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I absolutely want the DQ person to have a luxurious standard of living. I want them to be flashing Rolex when I walk in. Otherwise what's the fucking point of all this modern society shit we've built?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Someone play Devil's Advocate and give us a workable argument for a society where people can't live off any single job. I'm not one to shy away from arguments and perspectives I don't agree with. It's important to understand both sides.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The usual argument is that those jobs are for teenagers or some shit. Nevermind the fact that teenagers have very limited working hours (can't exactly get that chicken strip basket at lunch on a workday if only teens are working there). The other part of the reasoning is something along the lines of wanting to "motivate" people to move into other fields/jobs. But quite frankly, that's a stupid argument. I wouldn't want to work fast food again even if they were paying me the same money I make now. I would much rather work from home at a computer than deal with shitty people all day in a hot greasy environment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as a dude who works from home from a computer but used to work in a kitchen, sometimes I miss it. It can be stressful, sometimes more stressful than a deskjob, but it's also contained. It's nice to clock out and not have to think about my progress on some work item or how I need to study up on some new tech.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

A "functional" society is not the same thing as a society worth living in or supporting.

Corporatism with wage slaves working 80 hours a week in the most productive period of human history ever is functional, in that people are deliberately kept alive and productive as long as they don't get too uppity.

Sure, this makes the upper class obscenely wealthy at the cost of everyone else, but it does technically work. Lines do go up.

Just not the lines that should go up.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"What we want is a society where everybody is above average"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me more about how "below average" people shouldn't afford to live

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The point is that our economy should be built upon jobs that actually provide a meaningful purpose along with a living wage, like trades, crafts or other skilled work, instead of expecting people who are trying to build a life for themselves to be subjected to soul crushing busy work to line the pockets of corporate stooges.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be frank, until we reach a point of complete automation (which is a whole other can of worms), jobs like that are explicitly necessary in the world everyone wants to live in, with convenient access to pretty much anything they could want (though obviously at a reasonable wage). Whether that world is worth those jobs isn't a question I think I could do justice addressing, but it's certainly one society needs to determine an answer for.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People still want to eat ice cream cones tho

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean the answer is in the pudding, it’s just the quiet part

slaves

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