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[–] [email protected] 333 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Best interaction with an antimasker:

Them: masks don't work

Me: We'll I'm going to wear one anyway

Them: Well then you're just traping the germs against your face

Me: so you're saying they block germs?

[–] [email protected] 174 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

They even stated the correct reason to wear a mask: to trap the germs against my face, so others don't get infected

It's like they don't compute the idea behind it, it stops at me me me

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My favorite reply to them is that it's America and I can do whatever I want, I'll call them snowflakes too whenever appropriate. They get pissed when you insinuate they're anti American lul.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

Well, it's only fair, seeing as they ARE anti-American.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Someone once told me that the box in which masks came in says "doesn't protect from viruses", as if it was hidden-in-plain-sight proof that masks don't work.

Yeah, they don't protect the user from viruses, they protect other people. The box is technically correct, Patricia, there is no conspiracy here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is humorous that these people think that they have some secret knowledge that only they know and they feel so much power because of it. Except that the information they know is incorrect and they just end up looking like an idiot.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they actually do understand but don't have enough empathy with other people to see it as their responsibility to protect other people from their viruses.

Not that someone as perfect as them would ever sick enough to potentially infect others...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Please stop you’re going to break them! 😂

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While it is fun to tweak their titties with this, it will make zero difference on their position because their position wasn't arrived at by rational thought.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You're assuming these people believe we even send things to space. I had a serious ass conversation recently with my father's roommate. Typical conspiracy theorist ding dong. Full on flat earther and everything. I asked him how he thinks GPS works if the earth was flat. He admitted he didn't know but then when I started to explain how it works by pinging satellites we put up in space he cut me off and said space isn't real. Like legitimately thinks space isn't real. He on a separate occasion also complained that we didn't need to wear masks during covid because we apparently make our own viruses in our bodies and viruses don't spread between people.

These people don't even understand how logic works. Let alone that people could be smarter than they are.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I just want affordable healthcare

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the answer to that doesn't lie in science but in politics.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ask the military industrial complex. Too much good applicable science and tech comes from space exploration.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But surely you must understand how someone, having failed all of their classes and then dropped out of school altogether, understands complex matters better than the people who are brilliant, have international acclaim, and devoted like 5 decades of their lives to study that same thing?

Or you know, at least watched this 11-minute video?

And if you do, can you explain it to me? :-P So far all I have is "Might Makes Right", but somehow that seems to be lacking something...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They failed because they’re obviously smarter than science and not the other way around.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People act like their mamas never told 'em to cover their damned mouths when they cough or sneeze. It's the same damned thing, only masks work much better at keeping your filthy germs from infecting other people.

Common sense ain't common, they say, and this anti-mask nonsense is just proof that it's true.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

But don't you know? Having symptoms like "drier mouth," "fogged glasses," and "smelling your own breath" are much more dangerous than a virus that killed a million Americans at least.

What it really tells me it that the mouth breathers are crazier than we gave them credit for.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean a lot of them also don't believe we landed unmanned units on mars, or humans on the moon, for that matter, so...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's funny, I've heard plenty of morons talk about flat earth, but I've never seen anyone say anything about Mars.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Mars is obviously a star, since it is in the sky and glows.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So they just deny space exploration. Easy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

While using a smartphone with nano chips and GPS, based on satellites and Einstein's General Relativity.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am reasonably sure that a fair many conservatives feel that they are entitled to their biases and fallacies and the world must bend to these biases.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's deeper than that, they literally believe they can change objective reality by believing hard enough.

That's why they excuse all of their bad acts, if they ignore it, it doesn't exist to them.

Negative object permanence.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Fauci is to blame. The path of evil is paved in good intention.

The fucker told everyone that they didn't need masks.

What he was intending to do was make sure doctors and emergency personnel had masks. instead, it became an inflection point of publicly dividing the nation.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Let’s be real, the misinfosphere would’ve have found something else to misguide the morons. He didn’t even say “you don’t need masks”, he said “don’t buy all the masks, stay inside”

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the much deeper reason is, that stupid people can't fathom that knowledge can change. They can't understand that scientists legitimately didn't know better, despite their best efforts. They can't accept, that scientists come to other conclusions based on new data, instead they assume some ulterior motive.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Reluctance against masks was not unique to the USA

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is also misinformation. Fauci, et al, were going based on the current NIH guidance at the time, taken from the original SARS virus, which was that improper mask use was potentially more dangerous due to the risk of cross contamination. In this case there was actually strong evidence that a significant number of cases in healthcare settings were coming from contaminated PPE.

At the time, it was thought that it was primarily surface contact which spread the virus, or at least that this was a major source of spread. Now imagine that your average idiot with one improperly fitted mask was told to use masks. They would touch contamination surfaces, touch their mask, and then bring that mask into their car and their house, contaminating those surfaces as well. Given what we knew at the time, this was considered a very serious risk.

Once we understood that airborne spread was a bigger threat, they updated the science. If they are guilty of anything, it was failing to properly explain the nuance of the above reasoning, though in their defense, there was a giant orange idiot taking up most of the oxygen in the room.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Poindexter... not hard slang to get correct. Dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck off Pondexter

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Step on Mars but not on snek.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well it doesnt help that studies post covid restrictions found many of said restrictions where ineffective. Masks tho we have good evidance they work at least.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Masks are more effective in protecting others if you are sick, rather than protecting yourself if others are sick. We should have the attitude that protecting others is good.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We should have the attitude that protecting others is good.

This flies in the face of North American “exceptional/radical individualism”.

Asian societies are largely collective. You do what you can to serve others, putting the needs of the community ahead of your own, and this leads to tighter-knit, stronger, and more resilient communities.

North American society is based on “muh rights” individualism, where the person is most important, and society needs to serve their needs, and not the other way around. This leads to weak, ephemeral, almost non-existent communities that are there only in name, or by a fluke of geography that makes completely random people cluster together without ever making serious or deep social connections.

Of the two, the former might end up being stifling to creatives and neuroatypicals, but the latter cannot survive any significant challenge without a significantly negative impact on the “community”.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As always, it's better to recommend more strict restrictions when you don't know if they're effective and there's an impact on public health. Hindsight is 20/20

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is the thesis of this meme, that people are just stupid and there is no underlying problem or system that can be improved?

Science is often communicated to the public via either companies, politics, or the media. Which al have their own interests and issues in representing “scientific facts”. To give some examples of the “science” people have been exposed to: These new pain killers are perfectly save and absolutely not addictive. Making health care accessible is actually bad for the economy and will be more expensive in the end. Or the numerous articles on outlier papers published in the media that conclude that it’s actually healthy to [insert obviously unhealthy habit here (sponsored by some industry group)].

Science has a communication problem, and the communication conduits have a huge credibility problem. The results of which made an already bad pandemic even worse.

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