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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 197 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If Epic could actually provide a better service, they would be seeing customers and developers actually want to use their platform.

Instead they try to lock games behind exclusivity deals and bribe customers with free games and they still fail.

So what do they do instead of fixing their own problems? They go after everyone else who’s actually successful.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd love it if they had a comparable service, because competition is good for the consumer, but they just don't.

Steam has had a relative monopoly for two decades, and we're lucky they've been customer friendly. But if something were to happen to Gabe, or Valve decided to go public or something, we're screwed.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago

The fact that everyone else is shit isn’t Valves problem, it’s theirs.

And we are fucked when something eventually changes with Valve, but we’d have been fucked this whole time without them.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Gabe dies, we're SO fucked.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

There will be a time where Gabe will no longer be there. Hopefully someone as good as him is ready to fight the good fight.

I wonder if Gabe would go as far as doing a Halliday move like in ready player one.

I feel like that's a bad idea cause it's gonna be a sweaty cheater that would crack the thing and fuck everyone up.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If Epic could actually provide a better service, they would be seeing customers and developers actually want to use their platform.

Doubt

Gog is objectively giving you more value for your money but even cdpr had to release the Gwent standalone on steam eventually because people didn't buy it enough - once it was on steam it sold more than in a year on gog in weeks

People don't look at the alternatives at all - unless it's a AAA game with an exclusive deal

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 40 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Gog is objectively giving you more value for your money

What value do they give you exactly?

The games are mostly priced the same, they don't have integrated modding support, no input remapping, no remote play, no in-home streaming, no steamcmd for server operators, no VR client, no Linux client and no Steam Deck support.

The only thing they do give you is no DRM, but nothing stops a developer from adding a DRM-free game on Steam.

[–] VSDreams@yiffit.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Steam is DRM. Note the warnings all mention third-party drm. Eventually your login to steam expires and you can't play your games, and steam can revoke games and your access to them at any point for any reason.

Steam is good, but let's not imply it's providing a DRM free experience.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Steam is only DRM if Steamworks is required for the game to launch, e.g. I can copy my Baldur's Gate 3 files to a different PC and launch them without Steam.

It's up to the developer how they behave if Steam is not present.

See also https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam

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[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

They ruined a game I loved and I will never forgive them.

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[–] urda@lebowski.social 123 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tim Sweeney is literally the biggest fucking cry baby I’ve ever seen.

I won’t touch anything Epic because of such a man child he has become.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hey if him being a giant baby keeps giving me free games let the manbaby cook.

Mankind Divided is free right now btw

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not worth me being a statistic that they can sell to investors imo. Fuck Epic.

Besides, that game’s been on sale for less than $5 on Steam.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"As you can see, a whole bunch of people joined our service, downloaded games we paid literally millions for from our servers and didn't give us money" isn't a good pitch.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Mankind Divided is free right now btw

It's not free. The point is to get me to make an account on Epic and install their stupid launcher. That isn't free and I'm tired of people claiming things are "free" when in fact they exist to get you to sign up for another service. It's not free-as-in-air.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, on Linux (e.g. my Steam Deck), I can just install Heroic Launcher and don't need their stupid launcher whatsoever.

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I don’t care about his crying as much as I’m annoyed they won’t make anymore Unreal games

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gabe Newell gives me Hedonism Bot vibes in the image from this article

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gabe: Hello Handsome, might you procure my services?

Me: What do I have to do?

Gabe: Nothing sordid I assure you. Simply open your wallet, ever so gently, while I humiliate Tim Sweeny

~opens my wallet~

Gabe: Save it for the Steam Sale

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that picture of Gabe is fucking peak IDGAF

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is he holding a bowl in his hand or is it just me LMAO

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a steam deck. (and a phone)

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[–] macisr@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oh Sweeney having a tantrum, when hasn't that happened monthly since like 10 years ago? Sweeney if you want more money than what you're already making, then fucking make better products man. Fucking asshole trying to win the game by crying to daddy government and having fits. It would be one thing if he was a small guy being treated unfairly, but this dude is in the elite as well, his company is a big name in the game, but he cries as if he was small potatoes being treated unfairly by big corpos. Fuck off, corpo trash trying to pass as a small boy. If there's a thing more annoying than a corporation being an asshole is an asshole corporation trying to pass as a victim.

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[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (29 children)
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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As petulant and annoying as tim Sweeney can be, I do think he's right that valve's fees are pretty exorbitant at their level of success. They could take a much smaller cut and still be making bank.

[–] astrsk@piefed.social 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, valves fees are completely reasonable. $100 one time fee, then 30% for any game key sold by valve with something like a million guaranteed impressions. Also it’s 0% if you generate the keys for free and sell them elsewhere like on your own website. All with the benefit of the steam network and hosting. I’m tired of people believing Tim’s lies under the facade of “he’s and asshole but he has a point”. He doesn’t have a point. He’s throwing a tantrum because he doesn’t have what he wants which is hundreds of millions of paying customers and he doesn’t want to put the time and investment needed into building out the infrastructure to achieve the same feat. He’s a greedy little fuck that wants to do the bare minimum to get rich while valve has been coasting as a market leader because they built the whole freakin market!

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, these fees are completely reasonable. Do they think hosting and maintaining a platform costs nothing?

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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

The whole wolfire thing is very confusing.

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